Problem shifting from second to first gear

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Alex, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. Alex

    Alex Guest

    Please help!
    I have Subaru Forester 2003, recently I've noticed that I can not
    downshift
    from 2nd gear to 1st when driving with speed between 12mph(18km/h) -
    1mph (1.6km/h). Actually I have to stop car befor I can dwonshift to
    1st gear.
    Has anybody experienced this problem? Does anyone know what's causing
    it?
    Dealer didn't help at all.

    Thank you.
     
    Alex, Jan 29, 2004
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  2. Alex

    Mike G. Guest

    It's your syncros. I've had this problem on every Subie I've owned and it
    seems to start after about 20K miles. The syncros just get worn down a bit.
    My Legacy has over 215K and it's been like that ever since 20K.

    You can put light pressure on the stick as you get down to around 5mph and
    then rev it a little bit so the gears will mesh a little more easily. The
    other option is to get into the tranny and replace them, although I don't
    think it's worth it.

    Mike
     
    Mike G., Jan 29, 2004
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  3. Are you saying you can downshift to 1st if you are going _more_ than 12mph?
     
    Dominic Richens, Jan 29, 2004
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    Rory Guest

    Never thought this was a 'problem'. With any manual transmission I've ever
    driven, this is just the way it works. You have to double clutch to go from
    2nd to first if not at a stop... The faster your moving, the more gas you
    have to give. Here's a good write up on it:

    http://www.driversedge.com/dblcltch.htm

    Disclaimer: Of course, this is not to say that _all_ manual transmission
    cars behave like this, just those in my experience...

    HTH
     
    Rory, Jan 29, 2004
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    Rob Munach Guest

    You need to double clutch to get it to go in at that speed. You are
    asking alot from your synchros. Also, try some Redline MT90 in the
    transaxle - it will make a noticeable difference as well as minutely
    increasing your acceleration and gas mileage.

    -Rob
     
    Rob Munach, Jan 29, 2004
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  6. Alex

    Alex Guest

    No, I just would never try to downshift to first gear if I'm going
    faster than 12mph (actually 8mph would be right)
     
    Alex, Jan 29, 2004
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  7. Alex

    Alex Guest

    Thank you all.
    I will try Redline MT90.
    My car has only 13K (km) or about 8K miles.
    I was able to downshift from 2 to 1 until recently.
    It didn't happen overnight but in about one month period.
    I guess I have to live with it.

    Alex
     
    Alex, Jan 29, 2004
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    mac Guest

    I've 230,000+ on my 91 legacy and the bote d'vitesse is nice. into first
    just fine.

    i dunno
     
    mac, Jan 30, 2004
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  9. I was pretty sure that was what you meant to say, but I didn't want to
    assume anything :)

    So then your 1st gear synchro is burnt out, as other's have said. Same thing
    with my 95 Legacy.

    I have developed this habit of using my 1st gear to judge when I have
    "stopped" at a stop sign. I slow down while putting light pressure on the
    stick and when I'm going about 1mph, it'll pop in and I'll let the clutch in
    and accellerate away. The other day I was driving my mother's brand new
    Echo and almost ran the stop sign because it popped into 1st at about
    20mph!! I could hear a strained "vrrrooom!" coming from the gearbox as the
    main shaft sped up to match the drive shaft, so I gather it can't be good
    for the syncho to shift going any faster than 5mpg.

    Anyhow, it will likely cost you 500-1000$ to fix, so I would recommend you
    just get used not using first gear, except to start from stop, or learn to
    double-clutch :)

    cheers!
     
    Dominic Richens, Jan 30, 2004
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    Ceph Lopod Guest

    I drive on some really curvy roads (many curves are posted 15 mph)
    that necessitate lots of shifting but I never ever shift into first
    except pulling away from a complete stop.
    Why would you want to shift into first going 12 mph?
    The H4 has plenty of torque.
    This question has come up around here before.
    With all respect what the hell are you trying to do to your car?
     
    Ceph Lopod, Jan 31, 2004
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