EJ25 oil pickups grenading?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by 1 Lucky Texan, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. Steve or others....have you got any info confirming the concerns shown
    in this thread? ;http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?
    t=1920420

    just trying to determine how concerned I should be about my 06 WRX
    wagon.

    tia

    Carl
    1 Lucky Texan
     
    1 Lucky Texan, Sep 6, 2010
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    S Guest

    Hi Carl!

    I haven't heard about this, but then I haven't been staying on top of
    the newer WRX cars either.
    I looked thru the fotos, and it doesn't look very well supported, does
    it? I can imagine that a combination of thin, or poor quality tubing,
    and rough roads at speed (rally wannabes?), or even engine vibrations
    (lotsa trips to redline?) could cause failures as described. Probably
    less of an issue for the "average" driver, or we would have heard way
    more uproar.
    If it were my car, tho, I think I'd wait 'til the factory warranty
    expired, and install the aftermarket pickup tube. It doesn't appear to
    be too difficult, and (alas) I fall into the rally/redline category
    ;-)

    ByeBye! S.

    Steve Jernigan KG0MB
    Laboratory Manager
    Microelectronics Research
    University of Colorado
    (719) 262-3101
     
    S, Sep 6, 2010
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    basia Guest


    Probably, ...but then how much uproar does
    one hear about the head gasket issue. Not really
    much, considering it is an obvious engineering defect.

    Subaru take on bad engineering seems to be that i
    f the issue does not affect primarily the original owner
    within the warranty period, ...it is being ignored.

    Second hand owners do not cause much uproar and
    pay for repairs themselves, while iriginal owners within
    warranty period get patch-up solutions, good for only a
    very limited time, ...essentially to get you past warranty
    period, like the 50 cent coolant conditioner solution to
    a major engine design deficiency.

    I wonder how long can Subaru they keep doing this
    before the bottom falls of?

    I keep driving my 2000 Impreza 2.2l, even though
    have been tempted by newer Subarus on numerous
    occasions. I have high hopes for the new 2.5L engine
    (2010 Legacy/Outback, 2011 Forester), but have to say
    I am just plain scared.

    Basia
     
    basia, Sep 7, 2010
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    StephenH Guest

    we saw 2 dead engines related to this a few years ago, but nothing
    recently. Haven't had a recall or an inspection. will try to see if
    the new subaru part was improved.
    I read the entire posts, and first was concerned; but later felt like
    the vender liked to "keep the fear alive" He said "If it has an EJ
    25... Yes. All EJ series motors have pickup issues and all EJ25 motors
    after 2006 have the same exact pickup." yet only 2 in our shop and
    none recently.......
    I don't know... Ill ask the district rep soon, when I see him.
     
    StephenH, Sep 15, 2010
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  5. I could CERTAINLY understand how a dent to the bottom on the pan could
    create a cracked tube or restriction.(as in that one pic) But, like
    you, I just wonder how big an issue this is, and whether Subaru even
    had a TSB or anything on the problem. If I rallycrossed or frequently
    was off-road, it seems like a reasonable concern.

    By 'few years ago' what year models were involved? Is this something
    that has a definite 'range' of years involved?

    thanx for replying.
     
    1 Lucky Texan, Sep 15, 2010
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  6. we saw 2 dead engines related to this a few years ago, but nothing
    Interesting. I'm refreshing an EJ25D I got from the local wrecker. The oil
    pan had taken a hit in an accident or from being dropped. I got a new oil
    pan yesterday, and checked the oil pickup this morning. Sure enough, after
    polishing the oil lacquer off, there was a hairline crack down near the
    mounting flange.

    SD
     
    Stewart DIBBS, Sep 16, 2010
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    StephenH Guest

    the district rep was at the shop today, said that he has seen them
    only on dead engines that had overheated. He didn't know of the two
    our shop had; but overall, Subaru had no campaigns or rash of problems
    with the tubes killing engines. So officially, Subaru doesn't have an
    issue.
    There is an old block we just warrantied an engine in the shop; i'll
    pull the oil pan and see.
     
    StephenH, Sep 17, 2010
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  8. But the question is, did the crack 'predate' the overheating of the
    engine and then, the dead engine issue prompted the inspection/
    discovery of the crack? In other words are there a bunch of engines
    running around with cracked oil pickups that just haven't been
    inspected - yet?

    (another 'excuse' to get a gauge cluster for my car - with OIL
    PRESSURE, boost/vacuum, and maybe ammeter lol!)
     
    1 Lucky Texan, Sep 17, 2010
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    StephenH Guest

    the service manager and i agree, this is one of those tings that make
    you go "hmmmm"
     
    StephenH, Sep 18, 2010
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    basia Guest


    I'd say yes, on the cockroach theory principle!

    If there are people who successfully catch their
    pickup tubes before they grenade, there are more
    of these around than is apparent. You started this
    thread Lucky Texan with an example of someone
    catching their roach.

    Basia
     
    basia, Sep 18, 2010
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