Keyless programming - horn no honkie!

[stronggirl]

I recently bought a used 2001 Subaru Forester. The person who sold it
to me did not give me keyless remotes. I verified with a dealer
through the VIN that my car is equipped with keyless entry and bought
two remotes on ebay that match the numbers the dealer gave me.

I found the keyless instructions in the manual and followed them. I've
made several attempts in turning the key 10 times in 15 seconds and I
can't get the horn to honk.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks, Janet

 

[Todd H.]

I recently bought a used 2001 Subaru Forester. The person who sold it
to me did not give me keyless remotes. I verified with a dealer
through the VIN that my car is equipped with keyless entry and bought
two remotes on ebay that match the numbers the dealer gave me.

I found the keyless instructions in the manual and followed them. I've
made several attempts in turning the key 10 times in 15 seconds and I
can't get the horn to honk.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Well, the horn honking sounds better in theory than in practice--it's
very annoying to me and folks nearby, and as such I turned mine off.
You can hear the locks actuate when you engage them close to the
vehicle.

However, in the owners manual, if you hit both buttons on the remotes
you just bought for a given amount of time, I think that may reenable
the horn honking on arming....but that's just a fuzzy recollection.

Best Regards,

 

[D H]

Well, the horn honking sounds better in theory than in practice--it's
very annoying to me and folks nearby, and as such I turned mine off.
You can hear the locks actuate when you engage them close to the
vehicle.

Thanks, Todd. I HATE them too. My wife and I both get a little irritated
every time we hear one, which obviously is too often, especially in malls
etc. Sorry to be so harsh sounding, but Janet, is there some reason you need
to have EVERYONE in earshot hear your horn go off every time you lock your
doors? This is just as much noise pollution as having to hear other folks
loud music pumping WAY beyond what it takes for THEM to hear it.
Here in the USA, at least, our culture has gotten to be so "in your
face" with everything we do, there's little respect given to others around
us. Car horns were put on the car for one reason, to signal other DRIVERS
when a warning or other meaningful communication was necessary for safety of
all. Next, they got used to shout to someone you might be picking up
somewhere, "HEY, I'M WAITING OUT HERE!" with no regard for all the other
people in the neighborhood that had their peace interrupted and felt they
should go see if something was wrong outside.
One more thought, maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that folks who want to
blast their horns every (blasted) time they lock their car tend to have
insecurity issues and incorrectly feel that this honking gains them some
wanted attention somehow. In my opinion, the attention they receive is not
what they really want, nor does it get them the respect they wish they had.
It only makes others want to ignore them even more. I personally wish things
were moving the other direction, rather than making more noise everywhere we
go.
Sure, I realize this is quite a bit beyond what you asked for, but I
hope you will consider the rationale.
So, do I have too much time on my hands or what?

 

[S]

Hi Janet!

Any ideas or suggestions?

Are you sure it has the keyless system actually installed? M'lady made
the dealership remove the system when she bought her Forester, but
I'll bet it shows up as "installed" on their database! Do the doors
lock/unlock from the remote? Keyless entry is a module that lives (I
think) under the dash to the left of the steering column on older
Foresters, but it may be beneath the center console between the front
seats on newer ones. 5 minutes work with a screwdriver will tell the
tale. Is it also equipped with a security system? I think the security
system uses a separate horn; don't know if the keyless entry uses the
same, but if so possibly it is disconnected, or bad fuse/relay?
Some stuff that may prove useful is available on my server; help
yourself.
<http://chester.uccs.edu/wrx/wrx_mods/2002isecsys.pdf>
<http://chester.uccs.edu/wrx/wrx_mods/forester.pdf>

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101

 

[BBB]

D H wrote: ...

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Thanks, Todd. I HATE them too. My wife and I both get a little irritated
every time we hear one, which obviously is too often, especially in malls
etc. Sorry to be so harsh sounding, but Janet, is there some reason you need
to have EVERYONE in earshot hear your horn go off every time you lock your
doors? This is just as much noise pollution as having to hear other folks
loud music pumping WAY beyond what it takes for THEM to hear it.

I think that the reference to the horn in the original post was that the
horn didn't sound as it is supposed to do to indicate progress during
the programming procedure. That is quite a different issue from whether
one likes to have the horn sound in normal usage.

My 2003 Forester uses a much quieter electronic sound in lieu of
sounding the horn. I find it quite bearable.



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[stronggirl]

I could care less if it honks when I use it, but I'm trying to PROGRAM
the remote. It's supposed to honk to indicate that the car is in
programming mode. I follow the directions in the manual and can't get
the car in this mode so I can get my remote working. If I can get the
damn thing programmed, I'll gladly turn off the honk.

 

[BBB]

I could care less if it honks when I use it, but I'm trying to PROGRAM
the remote. It's supposed to honk to indicate that the car is in
programming mode. I follow the directions in the manual and can't get
the car in this mode so I can get my remote working. If I can get the
damn thing programmed, I'll gladly turn off the honk.

My 2003 Forester requires me to sit in the driver's seat while
programming. Does yours have a similar requirement? If so, it might be
worth investigating whatever sensor and wiring there might be that
determines that the seat is occupied.




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[Todd H.]

I could care less if it honks when I use it, but I'm trying to PROGRAM
the remote.

The original post wasn't terribly clear on that--my apologies.

 

[D H]

The original post wasn't terribly clear on that--my apologies.

Mine too. Thanks for telling us. Sorry! I wish you the best getting it
to work.

 

[BoB]

D H wrote: ...


I think that the reference to the horn in the original post was that the
horn didn't sound as it is supposed to do to indicate progress during
the programming procedure. That is quite a different issue from whether
one likes to have the horn sound in normal usage.

My 2003 Forester uses a much quieter electronic sound in lieu of
sounding the horn. I find it quite bearable.

That sounds like a nice improvement over the older models. I have
an 'old' '02 ForesterS and it honks the regular horn. I've found
that if I lock the doors prior to closing the driver's door, it
gives a much shorter, barely noticeable beep.

Unlocking is the usual noise. That noise however, can be used to get
rid of intruders hanging around your car. When they hear the beeps
they know you are somewhere near, even if they can't see you, so my
wife wants the honking available just for that purpose.

When they outlaw use of cell phones in moving vehicles, I'll do my
part and stop the honking alarm.

BoB
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