Using spray brake cleaner

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wayne

My '92 Legacy needs new brake discs. My question is about the use of
spray brake cleaners. The area around the disc is a bit dirty. I've never
used spray cleaners before so I'm unsure about how to keep the toxic
spray (and toxic dust) contained and not contaminate the whole garage,
not to mention my body. Is there a trick to using this safely?

Thanks,
Wayne
 
wayne said:
My '92 Legacy needs new brake discs. My question is about the use of
spray brake cleaners. The area around the disc is a bit dirty. I've never
used spray cleaners before so I'm unsure about how to keep the toxic
spray (and toxic dust) contained and not contaminate the whole garage,
not to mention my body. Is there a trick to using this safely?

Thanks,
Wayne

Are you removing the discs to clean them? Why? Did grease or oil
somehow get on them? Spraying cleaner spray on the discs while they are
still mounted pretty much means you'll be removing the lubrication on
the slider pins which is not good. Unless the discs got contaminated,
you shouldn't be spraying cleaner all over the brake assembly.
 
Hi Wayne!

My '92 Legacy needs new brake discs. My question is about the use of
spray brake cleaners. The area around the disc is a bit dirty. I've never
used spray cleaners before so I'm unsure about how to keep the toxic
spray (and toxic dust) contained and not contaminate the whole garage,
not to mention my body. Is there a trick to using this safely?

I think that overall these cleaners have gotten a lot less toxic over
the years, as have brake pad compounds. Never the less, you still want
to avoid contact as much as possible. Go down to the hardware store
and get some disposable Nitrile gloves (usually blue). Use it outside,
or at least have the garage door open. Put down some scrap cardboard
or paper towels to catch the run-off. Put out your cigar ;-)

Another option would be to use clean stoddard solvent (basically
kerosene) and a small paint brush to clean the caliper/rotor. Place a
plastic tray to catch the contaminated solvent. I don't think clean
solvent will affect the pads much, but to be on the safe side clean
everything before (re)installing them.

Finally, unless things are _really_ dirty, you might consider just
wiping everything down with a dry shop rag as needed, thus avoiding
the issue entirely.

While you are at it, it's always worthwhile to check the "floating"
mechanism of the calipers. If you can move the caliper back and forth
smoothly, all's well, but if things seem tight, or bind at all, clean
and lubricate the pins and guides. Also check the dust boots on the
caliper pistons before you compress them.

Hope this helps a bit.

ByeBye! S.
Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101
 
Are you removing the discs to clean them? Why? Did grease or oil
somehow get on them? Spraying cleaner spray on the discs while they are
still mounted pretty much means you'll be removing the lubrication on
the slider pins which is not good. Unless the discs got contaminated,
you shouldn't be spraying cleaner all over the brake assembly.

I have to replace both front discs (and pads) because they're worn. The
shop manual that I'm using says to clean the area with brake cleaner
before I start. It's supposed to remove the grime and toxic dust better
than using a blower. However, it doesn't say how to properly use the
cleaner; much less how to dispose of the byproducts.

Wayne
 
Hi Wayne!



I think that overall these cleaners have gotten a lot less toxic over
the years, as have brake pad compounds. Never the less, you still want
to avoid contact as much as possible. Go down to the hardware store and
get some disposable Nitrile gloves (usually blue). Use it outside, or at
least have the garage door open. Put down some scrap cardboard or paper
towels to catch the run-off. Put out your cigar ;-)

Another option would be to use clean stoddard solvent (basically
kerosene) and a small paint brush to clean the caliper/rotor. Place a
plastic tray to catch the contaminated solvent. I don't think clean
solvent will affect the pads much, but to be on the safe side clean
everything before (re)installing them.

Finally, unless things are _really_ dirty, you might consider just
wiping everything down with a dry shop rag as needed, thus avoiding the
issue entirely.

Thank you for the advice. I've changed brake pads before but not discs.
I've been mulling whether to take it down to a shop and have them dirty
up their garage or do it myself and mess up my garage. If this were some
other part of the car, I wouldn't mind too much but, being that this car
is older, I'm not sure whether my brakes pads have asbestos in them or
not; or whether brake pads in the past had them and the dust is still
around the brake area.

In the past, when changing pads, I would be very careful and try not to
disturb any non-vital part that could scatter dust.

Thanks,
Wayne
 
Thank you for the advice. I've changed brake pads before but not discs.
I've been mulling whether to take it down to a shop and have them dirty
up their garage or do it myself and mess up my garage. If this were some
other part of the car, I wouldn't mind too much but, being that this car
is older, I'm not sure whether my brakes pads have asbestos in them or
not; or whether brake pads in the past had them and the dust is still
around the brake area.

In the past, when changing pads, I would be very careful and try not to
disturb any non-vital part that could scatter dust.

Thanks,
Wayne

Asbestos was banned in the US back in 2003 or so. If your pads are more
than 5 years old...

YOU NEED TO CHANGE THEM MORE OFTEN!!! ;)
 
wayne said:
I have to replace both front discs (and pads) because they're worn. The
shop manual that I'm using says to clean the area with brake cleaner
before I start. It's supposed to remove the grime and toxic dust better
than using a blower. However, it doesn't say how to properly use the
cleaner; much less how to dispose of the byproducts.

Wayne

Personally, if I were to use the spray cleaner, and which means the
parts are out of the car, and because you are talking about the caliper
and not the discs, I'd use a soaked rag to clean the piston but cover
the piston to protect the rubber gasket. Since the caliper is
unmounted, hitting the slider pins won't be problem if you plan on
relubing them. Some disc pad kits come with lube but I've seen many
that don't (seems they want to save the few cents) so make sure you pick
up a squeeze tube of lube when you pick up the pads set. If you're
trying to spray the cleaner on the caliper while still mounted, you're
going to get it all over, like on the piston gasket, slider pins, brake
hose, underside of the fender, etc. I suppose you could provide cover
for those items while spraying.

The brake cleaner spray evaporates very, very quickly. The residue left
behind won't be the cleaner but what got cleaned off. So make sure to
spread newspapers or cardboard underneath. Fact is, you can spray the
stuff on your hands as a cleaner but have some grit soap nearby to
finish the cleanup (the cleaner will soon evaporate).

The main ingredients in brake spray cleaner are methanol, methyl
acetate, and acetone. Methanol is rubbing alcohol. Acetone will eat
through plastics hence the need to protect the caliper's piston gasket,
brake hose, plastic fender underliner, etc, plus it will dull the finish
on paint. Methyl acetate is another dissolver. It has 25% solubility
in water but considering how fast brake spray cleaner evaporates means
you'll have to do the degreaser or soapy cleanup immediately after
cleaning the surface. Different brands use different ingredients. Some
use ethyl benzene, heptane, xylene, They are dissolvers so be sure you
only hit the surfaces from which you want to dissolve something. That
means covering everything other than the target from the splash from the
spray. There's a reason why car shops just air blast the caliper and
rebuild shops might use cleaner (after air blasting): car shops don't
want to go through all the cover protection that, say, when spray
painting a door to prevent contamination elsewhere.

Besides, whose going to see the dirty caliper? Do you actually see it
through your wheels? If so, how does black on black become noticeable?
 
Personally, if I were to use the spray cleaner, and which means the
parts are out of the car, and because you are talking about the caliper
and not the discs, I'd use a soaked rag to clean the piston but cover
the piston to protect the rubber gasket. Since the caliper is
unmounted, hitting the slider pins won't be problem if you plan on
relubing them.

Thanks for the detailed information. I feel better about the situation
now. I probably won't use the spray after all.

Wayne
 

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