Electric Car Kit - How to Build Your Own Electric Powered Car at Home

Electric Car Kit - How to Build Your Own Electric Powered Car at
Home...http://automotiveguides.googlepages.com/build_your_own_electric_power...

This "article", which is really an adervtisement on the level of the
hydrogen scams is pretty sad. Only an idiot woudl believe it. It says
that for as little as 300 bucks you can have an electric car, but if
you were to use a mechanic instead of the DIY kit they are selling it
would cost 3-8k. Maybe if you happened to inherit one and then spent
300 bucks registering it you could do it for 300 bucks. A controller
for an electric car is many times 300 bucks. The motors are also over
that amount. Even if you came by a used motor for a really low price,
like $1, and built your own controller(which takes more ability and
knowledge than a DIY kit buyer would have) you'd still have to put
batteries in the car. The cheapest way to go is lead-acid, which means
you could buy enough batteries with your almost 300 bucks you have
left to go about 10 miles slowly. Far from the 200 miles they quote as
possible.

Perhaps if you started with a new lightweight car you could sell the
new engine and car parts for enough money to offset your costs enough
to come in at 300 bucks.

The reality of it is a conversion will cost that quoted 3-8k even if a
mechanic is never involved. If you want to do a conversion with the
latest battery technologies on the market, expect it to run you 25 to
50k. That is only what the parts cost. No labor included.

What a pitiful attempt at a scam.

If you believe this stuff, I can sell you an e-book on how to replant
and genetically modify your discarded Christmas tree so it will
produce twenty dollar bills. It's easy, just a high school chemistry
kit, a bottle of vinegar, and my super secret ultra magic ingredient,
which you will then have to buy from me every few months to keep your
tree going. My e-book is only 18.95 for a limited time though. So you
had better act quickly.
 
This "article", which is really an adervtisement on the level of the
hydrogen scams is pretty sad. Only an idiot woudl believe it. It says
that for as little as 300 bucks you can have an electric car, but if
you were to use a mechanic instead of the DIY kit they are selling it
would cost 3-8k. Maybe if you happened to inherit one and then spent
300 bucks registering it you could do it for 300 bucks. A controller
for an electric car is many times 300 bucks. The motors are also over
that amount. Even if you came by a used motor for a really low price,
like $1, and built your own controller(which takes more ability and
knowledge than a DIY kit buyer would have) you'd still have to put
batteries in the car. The cheapest way to go is lead-acid, which means
you could buy enough batteries with your almost 300 bucks you have
left to go about 10 miles slowly. Far from the 200 miles they quote as
possible.

I built one in the '80s using a free Fiat body, a surplus aircraft
generator and a homemade controller. I bought new batteries. Other
than the batteries my cost was WELL under $300. The batteries were a
bit over $1200 plus taxes.

I have since picked up a more sophisticated controller that would do
the job for $65 surpluss.

Sadly, the 1975 Fiat body has returned to the earth from whence it
came. Still have the motor.
 
 I built one in the '80s using a free Fiat body, a surplus aircraft
generator and a homemade controller. I bought new batteries. Other
than the batteries my cost was WELL under $300. The batteries were a
bit over $1200 plus taxes.

I have since picked up a more sophisticated controller that would do
the job for $65 surpluss.

Sadly, the 1975 Fiat body has returned to the earth from whence it
came. Still have the motor.

That's my point. In my example, I even said that you could use a
controller and motor that cost a buck each, and you'd still be screwed
because batteries are so expensive. They are also a consumable. It's
not like you can get batteries for pennies that others just don't want
any more and expect to get a decent life out of them. Unfortunately
most don't have the skill required to build a controller. If they did
they wouldn't be buying a DIY kit that claims that you don't have to
have any automotive knowledge. Also 1980s dollars went a lot further
than they do today.

So I think it is great that you were able to build a car for somewhere
between 1200 and 1500, but that is still far more than the 300 quoted.
I think that if one were to spend less than about 3k today, they would
be unhappy with either the performance, or range of the final product.

As an engineer, I just don't see it happening. I'm sure that that
remark will invite stuff about me not being able to think outside the
box on this stuff since I know too much about it. That is one of those
lines of logic that scammers use.

Bill
 
That's my point. In my example, I even said that you could use a
controller and motor that cost a buck each, and you'd still be screwed
because batteries are so expensive. They are also a consumable. It's
not like you can get batteries for pennies that others just don't want
any more and expect to get a decent life out of them. Unfortunately
most don't have the skill required to build a controller. If they did
they wouldn't be buying a DIY kit that claims that you don't have to
have any automotive knowledge. Also 1980s dollars went a lot further
than they do today.

So I think it is great that you were able to build a car for somewhere
between 1200 and 1500, but that is still far more than the 300 quoted.
I think that if one were to spend less than about 3k today, they would
be unhappy with either the performance, or range of the final product.

As an engineer, I just don't see it happening. I'm sure that that
remark will invite stuff about me not being able to think outside the
box on this stuff since I know too much about it. That is one of those
lines of logic that scammers use.

Bill


For the AVERAGE person today to build an electric car with acceptable
performance AND range, you are right, even $3000 isn't going to do it.
Lead Acid batteries are not going to provide adequate range and
performance with good life(I got 50 miles at 30mph, 30 miles at 50mph
out of my lead batteries - borderline performance/range for "average"
person today) and anything else is going to be over $3K just for
batteries.
9ah 1.2 volt Nimh batteries are $30 each. That's something like $150
for 9ah 6 volt,or roughly $1500 for 100Ah.
100ah at 48 volts is $12,000
That's half the capacity I had in my Fiat.

Do some scrounging and you can buy overstocks for about half the
price, with 3 month warranty instead of 1 year.
(found 10AH "AccuPower" 2 for $39 Canadian) (found CTA 12 ah 2 for
$27.60 canadian)
 

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