Timing Belt, 1989 1.8L GL

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Got my GL on the road today...you know, after the hard time I had with
insurance, RMV, etc, I knew I should have left it home...

I think it's a broken timing belt. I had them checked last year and the
Subaru Specialist said they looked new (4,000 miles ago...)

So, first of all, with my Toyotas to check for a broken timing belt I
remove the distributor cap and crank the engine. No rotor movement, no
timing belt. Does this work on the 1.8 L engine?

Also, looking at instructions here:

http://www.autozone.com/shopping/repairGuide.htm?pageId=0900c15280066dc4

1. What can I use for a flywheel stopper?
2. It says to remove the camshaft pulleys. Is this necessary, or can the
belts be slipped on over them?

What else should I be aware of before I begin this routine?

 

[Steve Daniels]

So, first of all, with my Toyotas to check for a broken timing belt I
remove the distributor cap and crank the engine. No rotor movement, no
timing belt. Does this work on the 1.8 L engine?

Probably.

Try it. If the rotor doesn't move, you know you have a serious
problem, and yeah, it's probably the timing belt. If it does
move, you know to test further.

Can you remove the valve cover? If the valves move, the belt is
fine.

Is there an inspection port?

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Probably.

Try it. If the rotor doesn't move, you know you have a serious
problem, and yeah, it's probably the timing belt. If it does
move, you know to test further.

Can you remove the valve cover? If the valves move, the belt is
fine.

Easier to remove the belt covers, I think...

Is there an inspection port?

Hey, Steve:

The only inspection port I've found on the car is for the flywheel.

There was one thing I should have added...timing is lost.
All the directions I see are for intact belts. I haven't found anything on
how to align the cams if the timing is lost!

 

[Steve Daniels]

There was one thing I should have added...timing is lost.
All the directions I see are for intact belts. I haven't found anything on
how to align the cams if the timing is lost!

You'll have to burn that bridge when you get there.

 

[johninKY]

This engine has two timing belts. When the left one breaks, it's the on
that drives the camshaft that also powers the distributor, the engine wil
not fire and the rotor will not turn. Engine will run on two cylinders i
the other belt breaks, which is rare. You don't need that flywheel stoppe
thingee. A large screwdriver works just as well. Hope you know about th
3 marks used to time the belts. Also you have not lost time. This onl
happens if you pull the distributor. If you line up the timing marks o
the camshaft sprokets and use the correct timing marks on the flywheel yo
will have no problems. Don't forget to rotate the engine one ful
revolution after installing the first belt and before installing th
second belt

 

[johninKY]

Forgot to mention no need to remove the camshaft sprockets

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

This engine has two timing belts. When the left one breaks, it's the one
that drives the camshaft that also powers the distributor, the engine will
not fire and the rotor will not turn. Engine will run on two cylinders if
the other belt breaks, which is rare. You don't need that flywheel stopper
thingee. A large screwdriver works just as well. Hope you know about the
3 marks used to time the belts. Also you have not lost time. This only
happens if you pull the distributor. If you line up the timing marks on
the camshaft sprokets and use the correct timing marks on the flywheel you
will have no problems. Don't forget to rotate the engine one full
revolution after installing the first belt and before installing the
second belt.

Ooooook...Three marks used to time the belts...

I'm guessing these are the ones near the flywheel that you use the...er,
center one to set cyl 1 @ TDC...?

I see what you mean....distributor timing is not lost, and from what I
have seen (in the service manual) there is one mark on the cam pulley that
aligns with a mark on the belt housing that sets the cam timing.

Rotate the engine ONE FULL revolution, eh?

OK. Thanks!

 

[johninKY]

The ignition timing marks on the flywheel have nothing to do with timin
the belts. Find the 3 111 lines on the flywheel and use the center on
along with the pointer cast into the bellhousing. The camshaft sprocket
each have a dot and the covers behind the sprockets have a notch. Trus
me that the engine HAS to be rotated 360 degrees after the first belt i
installed. If you decide to ignore this I'll be on the watch for you
next posting:

"Can anyone tell be why this engine is running on only 2 cylinders after
installed new belts?

 

[johninKY]

Timing belt copy

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

The ignition timing marks on the flywheel have nothing to do with timing
the belts. Find the 3 111 lines on the flywheel and use the center one
along with the pointer cast into the bellhousing. The camshaft sprockets
each have a dot and the covers behind the sprockets have a notch. Trust
me that the engine HAS to be rotated 360 degrees after the first belt is
installed. If you decide to ignore this I'll be on the watch for your
next posting:

LOL! No, I can take a hint!

Someone else told me that, too, last year after I bought the car. So, that
I remembered.

 

[johninKY]

file:///Users/johnlong/Desktop/Timing%20Belt%20Procedure%20EA82%20-%20Ultimate%20Subaru%20Message%20Board.html%20%20EA8

 

[johninKY]

I give up. Twice I tried to paste the timing belt procedure and no-joy

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

I give up. Twice I tried to paste the timing belt procedure and no-joy.

I don't know how giganews works.

When Verizon had Usenet access, you could not post a picture in a
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[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

I give up. Twice I tried to paste the timing belt procedure and no-joy.

Oh, and I appreciate the effort, BTW!