subaru impreza or saab 92x?

[grape]

ok, now I realized that saab 92x is indeed a subaru with saab shell, but
I've heard that it's much better interior, more reliable, and much more
stiff suspension.

Also I have $3500 accumulation on my GM visa card which can spent on Saab.
so the final price of Saab 92-x won't be too high comparing an impreza, and
the good point is that GM have 5 years warranty on Saab contrary to subaru
which has only 4 years.

So.... shall I switch to Saab 92-x? what's the difference between 92-x and
impreza?

 

[Rick Courtright]

So.... shall I switch to Saab 92-x? what's the difference between 92-x and
impreza?

Hi,

Our local paper has a car section on Saturdays, and yesterday's section
included a story about Saab, including the 92-x.

Gist of the story was that 92-x sales were absolutely dismal to date,
Saab's total division performance was a continuing money loser since GM
"rescued" them, and GM execs are scratching their heads, trying to
decide whether to continue w/ Saab or just euthanize it. With Saab's
total annual sales <150k units, compared to ~500k units/mo for GM on the
whole, I think I know where I'd bet my quarter.

Remember Oldsmobile? I wouldn't expect GM would have any more empathy
for a division they'd bought than one they'd worked to develop over many
decades.

So... if you like the differences of the Saab over the Impreza, the
$3500 Visa cash might be helpful in steering you toward the Saab
(doesn't that bring the prices of the two about even?), but for myself,
I'd lean toward the Impreza, figuring Subaru's still pretty much a
stand-alone company overall (FHI's investment being far more than GM's,
and who knows if GM will stick around if they zap Saab, since the 92-x
and an upcoming Tribeca-based Saab SUV would appear on the surface to be
the biggest current benefit of their investing in Subaru), and more
likely to be here three or five years hence when I start needing parts
and the like more than right now.

Just thoughts...

Rick

 

[grape]

as for the price part, the new subaru impreza 2006 2.5i is CDN$2,3499 MSRP
and 92-x is CDN $287xx so, the discount will be $251xx around... and
seriously, I surely biased more towards subaru, but what I've heard is that
Saab is better quality and GM is really offering 5 years warranty on it
rather than 4 years where subaru offers.


also, I suspect that if 92-x is broken, I can find more places to repair it,
maybe even more easy to get a parts or so? Or maybe they still have to ship
everything from Japan Subaru?

 

[Mark jb]

also, I suspect that if 92-x is broken, I can find more places to repair
it,

maybe even more easy to get a parts or so? Or maybe they still have to ship
everything from Japan Subaru?

If saab goes bust, parts will be inherently harder to source.
Subaru isn't gonna die in a hurry though, it's a safer bet long-term.
The extra one-year warranty means shit as mechanically the cars are near
identical. Your subaru is very unlikely to break in five years unless you
treat it like shit.

-mark

 

[SpikeMBA]

Hi,

Just thought I chime in on a few points here-

I own a Saab 9-2X and I carefully compared it to a Subaru WRX prior to
making the purchase:

First - There is no difference in quality - FHI manufactures the 9-2X on
the same line with the same equipment and many of the same components as the
Subaru...

Second - The Saab warranty is 4 Years and the Subaru Warranty is 3
years -- There are other benefits to the Saab warranty - such as 2 years
Free maintenance - this is definitely a plus for Saab.

Third - With the GM Employee pricing and Huge Rebates - You should
definitely be able to get a better price on a 92X than an Impreza - My 92X
Aero was more than $2500 Less than the best deal I could get for a WRX ---
Not bad, escpecially considering I had a host of fetures and options that
could not be purchased on the WRX (E.G. Xenons and Leather).

Fourth - The suspension on the 92X is SOFTER than the WRX - Not by
much - but it does result in slightly poorer handling but ... slightly
better ride...

Fifth - The Saab has a lot more Sound deadening material - Again
reducing road noise, but at the cost of performance... If you are interested
in all out performance - definitely go with the WRX ... It handles a bit
better and accelerates a bit bitter and you will know that all of the Mods
work with it... with the 92X Most do... but you can never be certain and
support from the 3rd party vendors is weaker. (Even though it essentially
the same car with a few tweaks.)

Sixth - With the Rebates ($6000 US) and the employee pricing these cars
have been flying off the lots ---- (Saab Sales were up 94% in July - Due
largely to 92X sales) --- So if you are interested, you better act fast
because there is very little inventory to choose from.

Seventh - If you can find the 92X you want and combine the Rebates with
the Employee pricing and your GM Card dollars --- Go For it - there probably
isn't a better deal anywhere !!!

 

[grape]

thank you for your reply... your info are very helpful.

btw, is 92-x a bit bigger inside?

 

[SpikeMBA]

Nope, the Interior volume is identical.... In fact other than the leather
(if you go for this option on the 9-2X) and the Automatic Climate control
you would have a hard time telling the Impreza interior from the 9-2X
interior. Most of the enhancements are in places you don't see, like the
sound insulation. (The seats are also slightly different ... but not really
significantly!)

I personally prefer the Saab's exterior styling - but this is purely
subjective and you may prefer the Impreza --- take a look at both and decide
for yourself.

Are you looking at a 9-2X Aero or Linear and are you comparing to a WRX
or a 2.5 RS Impreza ?

Just to be sure you should compare the

9-2X Aero (2.0L Turbo) to the WRX and the

9-2X Linear (2.5L NA) to the Impreza 2.5RS

Now when I bought there was GM Employee pricing and a $ 6000 (US) rebate in
effect ... and I was able to get a 9-2X Aero with a bunch of nice upgrades
for about the same price as the 2.5RS Impreza lists for ... If you are also
able to get the same deals (I think you are in Canada and I don't know if
the same things apply there!) and they allow you to use the GM Cash (I read
on a forum that it was not allowed on Saab?) -- I stand by statement that
you can't get a better deal!

Finally - You may want to check these forums:


www.saab92x.com and

http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/463298


Good Luck ...

 

[SpikeMBA]

Hello Again,

One More thing - I went to the Saab Canada Website and Found that the
Employee pricing is available there too:

http://www.saabcanada.com/ssi/media/pdf/employeeDiscount/Saab_Employee_Discount_east_en.pdf


$ 23,658 for a 9-2X Linear in Canadian Dollars ... (Seems higher than the US
Pricing converted $ 19,425 US for An AERO!)


But is still pretty good compared to the $ 28,700 that you quote in your
Previous Post...


Good Luck Again!

 

[Jim Fekete]

Learn everything there is to know about the 9-2x.

Go to saab92x.com

Jim

 

[foxmon]

It's the same car with cosmetic difference.
You can always bring it back to subaru to get it repair.

 

[BRH]

ok, now I realized that saab 92x is indeed a subaru with saab shell, but
I've heard that it's much better interior, more reliable, and much more
stiff suspension.

Also I have $3500 accumulation on my GM visa card which can spent on Saab.
so the final price of Saab 92-x won't be too high comparing an impreza, and
the good point is that GM have 5 years warranty on Saab contrary to subaru
which has only 4 years.

So.... shall I switch to Saab 92-x? what's the difference between 92-x and
impreza?

I hate to burst your bubble, but the last time I looked, you cannot
apply your GM credit card earnings toward a Saab.

Check yourself to be sure.

 

[JJ]

ok, now I realized that saab 92x is indeed a subaru with saab shell, but
I've heard that it's much better interior, more reliable, and much more
stiff suspension.

Also I have $3500 accumulation on my GM visa card which can spent on Saab.
so the final price of Saab 92-x won't be too high comparing an impreza, and
the good point is that GM have 5 years warranty on Saab contrary to subaru
which has only 4 years.

So.... shall I switch to Saab 92-x? what's the difference between 92-x and
impreza?

Too late. They're all gone. With all the GM incentives the last 3
months, they were all snatched up.

 

[y_p_w]

I hate to burst your bubble, but the last time I looked, you cannot
apply your GM credit card earnings toward a Saab.

Check yourself to be sure.

<http://www.gmcard.com/GMCard/apply/vehicles/index.jsp>
<http://www.gmcard.com/GMCard/apply/redeem/allowances.jsp>

GM has tweaked the rules depending on price and popularity. Many of the
lower-priced compacts have a redemption limit of $1000. It goes to up
to $3500 for more expensive vehicles. The more popular high priced
vehicles only have a $1000 allowance (SSR, Corvette, CTS, Hummer H2 SUT,
G6, GTO). Saab isn't part of the package.

 

[MN]

<http://www.gmcard.com/GMCard/apply/vehicles/index.jsp>
<http://www.gmcard.com/GMCard/apply/redeem/allowances.jsp>

GM has tweaked the rules depending on price and popularity. Many of the
lower-priced compacts have a redemption limit of $1000. It goes to up
to $3500 for more expensive vehicles. The more popular high priced
vehicles only have a $1000 allowance (SSR, Corvette, CTS, Hummer H2 SUT,
G6, GTO). Saab isn't part of the package.

Psssstt, ...if you're in Canada you can use your GM card earnings
toward a Saab purchase (max. $1500 on the 92X), or even a Saturn,
and get the employee discount too!

GM prefers to "milk" their own!

http://saturncanada.com/ssi/static/french/vehicles/2005/saab/92x/92x_overview.html
http://gmcanada.com/english/financing/gmcard/gmcard_redeem_allow.html


MN