is it standard practise to give desired color info before one can geta price quote?

[amanda992004]

Is it standard practise to give desired color info before one can get a
price quote? One dealer, the closet location, gave me the bs that there
is only one for white legacy GT in this whole state. I replied, "I'll
wait", meaning I'll wait till there is more.

BTW, the quote I got so far (w/o levaing home) from one local dealer
(via email) is better than carsdirect or edmunds. I mean that quote
even with some additional features is less than no additonal except
splash gurad ($97 value) from carsdirect and edmunds. For example,

- $24,500 for legacy 2.5 GT (4DR Sedan)with Auto Dimming Mirror/Compass
+ Security Upgrade + Spoiler [Brilliant Silver Metallic]. (I want
splash guard and so I have to get it.)

- $20,500 for 2.5i with Auto Dimming Mirror/Compass/Homelink + +
Spoiler [same color]

 

[Chris Werner]

Does his quote include destination and other state charges?

Chris

 

[amanda992004]

Does his quote include destination and other state charges?

I don't think so. I'll call him now.

 

[amanda992004]

I was told that there is $45 documentation fee + $8.75 tire fees (for
all 5 tires) and the usual tax and License fee. So 45+9 will still
keept he quote lower than Crasdirect quote that includes, for 2.5i,
under Regionals, I see a fee of $211 for "Super-Ultra Low/Partial Zero
Emissions (California, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Northern NJ, NY,
Massachusetts, Maine, Rhode Island and Vermont.)"


I don't see that Super-Ultra Low/Partial Zero Emissions fee for 2.5GT
but still the quote for GT w/o additonal stuff is higher than local
quote.

For 2.5GT w/o additonal, I tried carsdirect, using the zip codes of 3
universities (different states: one is in metropolitan, the other VERY
closed to that Metropitan like 35 mins away, last one in college town
in midwest). All higher than my quote from carsdirect, so higher than
my local quote.

For 2.5i, w/o additonal, doing the same compariosn gives lower quote
than my quote from carsdirect. It may be because of that "Super-Ultra
Low/Partial Zero Emissions" for my state.

The lady from carsdirect warns in her email that, with dealers, once I
sit down to sign papers, prices goes up. If that happend, I'll get up
and leave.

So far, out of 4 local dealers, 2 give the same quote for the same item
w/o the splash guard that I want (one white, the other silver) ; the
other 2 are obviously for more games than the first two. May be the
latter 2 knew about my not taking a loan.

 

[Blair Baucom]

I got my quote from a local Subaru dealer for a specific car on their lot. I
went there and picked it up for the price quoted in the email. I knew before
hand what color I would take and only asked for quotes on the cars that were
in stock that were acceptable to me. To get the low price though I had to
not use the low finance option from Subaru but they got me a great rate on
my loan. All of this was spelled out in their email. Was one of the easiest
& quickest purchases I have ever done.

Blair

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

If you want, tell 'em you're perfectly able to take care of the
documents yourself and you won't pay the fee. I've done that and gotten
it waived 2 times. Took maybe 30-60 seconds each time. Those are pretty
good wages! $45 in 1 minute! Worst thing that happens is they say no.
When they say "I'll have to speak to the manager" I say fine and then I
stand near the exit with my keys in my hand - like I'm leaving if they
come back with a 'No' answer. Be nice, but be tough. They will sell more
cars in 1-2 months that you'll buy in a lifetime and there are other
dealers.

Carl

 

[amanda992004]

I got my quote from a local Subaru dealer for a specific car on their lot. I
went there and picked it up for the price quoted in the email. I knew before
hand what color I would take and only asked for quotes on the cars that were
in stock that were acceptable to me. To get the low price though I had to
not use the low finance option from Subaru but they got me a great rate on
my loan. All of this was spelled out in their email. Was one of the easiest
& quickest purchases I have ever done.

Blair

Well..my local dealers know that I want white. I am not sure whether
all of them know that I want ONLY white for the look + another reason:
White is great for summer heat. 3 out of 4 have white. The one that
doesn't wants $200 to get the white for me.

I am going to need to change my mind about white, I guess, so that I
can bragin better. I need to get the quote from consumer report today
and make them an offer.

 

[BrianW]

I just got an e-mail quote for an 2005 OBW 2.5i from a local dealer
here in the Philly area: $22,500. It had a few options, but not many
(can't remember offhand). That included the $2000 incentive that
(supposedly) expired June 30. Usually you can either get the incentive
or low financing, but not both.

Does anyone know what the incentives are for July?

Often dealers will ask about colors, because they can deal better with
cars actually on their lot. If you want a color/option combo that they
don't have they may have to get it from another dealer. In this
instance I'm not sure which dealer gets their "holdback" $$ back (3%).

 

[amanda992004]

I just got an e-mail quote for an 2005 OBW 2.5i from a local dealer
here in the Philly area: $22,500.

I hav research about legacy only and so may i ask what is OBW?

It had a few options, but not many
(can't remember offhand). That included the $2000 incentive that
(supposedly) expired June 30.

There will be similar incentive in July, I am sure.

Usually you can either get the incentive
or low financing, but not both.

Does anyone know what the incentives are for July?

That will be good info.

Often dealers will ask about colors,

Yes they do.

because they can deal better with
cars actually on their lot. If you want a color/option combo that they
don't have they may have to get it from another dealer.

One asks for additonal $200 for having to get it from another dealer.

 

[amanda992004]

Thanks for the info on doc fees. I am sure I can handle that doc
process.

BTW, I am sure they will tell me about extended warranty when I buy. I
want to make sure that I am understanding correctly right that extended
warranty (from dealers - this or other dealer) can be bought later. I
really don't have time to do research on extended warranty right now
unless I must.

 

[jabario]

Go with the subaru gold. They even covered a leaking front strut.
Accepted at any dealer. Dont forget to negotiate on price

 

[Chris Werner]

You might want to consider Gap Insurance at the time of purchase, usually
between $200 to $300 one time cost.

Chris Werner

 

[Blair Baucom]

I know the feeling, I only found one white Subaru Forester XS in the St.
Louis area at the time with the options I wanted. Considered a blue one
briefly. Out of 6 cars I have owned, 5 have been white. I ordered 3 of the 6
as I wanted odd option combinations. Nice thing on most imports is most
options can be added by the dealer, or like I did order online & install
myself.

Another advantage for white is body shops have an easy time matching white
when doing repairs.

Blair

 

[amanda992004]

You might want to consider Gap Insurance at the time of purchase, usually
between $200 to $300 one time cost.

I just did a google serach and need to read the detail (hopefully
tonight) at http://www.autoinsuranceindepth.com/gap-insurance.html

From skimming through, it seems like it is mainly for

(1) those who still make payment on a car that's totalled in an
accident (I won't be making payment. To save money, my sister is
helping me to buy it.)

(2) for those whose cars get stolen and insurance policy doesn't
reimburse enough for the loss. (It will be safe at where I live, in
thew garage.)

Does this GAP Insurance have to be bought on the day the car is
purchased? Or within a certain months?

I wonder whether anyone has experience in making claim under this plan.

 

[amanda992004]

Ok, Subaru gold.

 

[amanda992004]

What's involved in that Doc process?


The following question is for anyone wh used CR report:

BTW, I printed a sample report from Cosumer Report website and tried to
understand the explanation before I buy any.

I understand the explanation up to the point of Consumer Wholesale
price (which is Dealer Invoice price - Dealer holdback) which should be
used as the Starting Point to negotiate. But I need clearification on
the following.
- Regional incentive for different state: I guess that is to be used in
negotiation process.
- Standadard Equipement: the ones recommended were Remote keyless Entry
and Drivers side mirror, heated.
- Options (with a check mark on recommended equipment): So if there is
a PRICE ,say for example, for 'Brakes, Power
Disc/Drum)"' other than the word "NA" or "*" (* means "applies to this
vehicle") or "Standard" for a particuler model, I am
supposed to add those PRICE digits , if the car happened to be
equipped with it, in my calculation of the cost of the car, right?

In the article (on CR site) "How to find latest rebates", there's as
section titled 'Don't pay extras you don't need'. The section refers to
rust proffing, etc. but what about things like Spoiler, Auto Dimming
Mirro with Compass and Homelink already on the car? One dealer said,
since they are there, the buyer have to pay for those. IS THAT TRUE? I
hate all those additonal features I just mentioned.

Too bad that carsdirect's price w/o those additonal stuff is higher
than local quotes.

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

God Damn "I need a man da"....you are a loser.....TURN YOUR SPELL-CHECKER ON
YOU DUMB BITCH

I just did a google SERACH and need to read the detail (hopefully
tonight) HUH?

(1) those who still make payment on a car that's totalled in an
accident (I won't be making payment. To save money, my sister is
helping me to buy it.) (BECAUSE YOUR A LOSER)

(2) for those whose cars get stolen and insurance policy doesn't
reimburse enough for the loss. (It will be safe at where I live, in
THEW garage.) (I BELEIVE YOU DO LIVE IN THE GARAGE)

Does this GAP Insurance have to be bought on the day the car is
purchased? Or within a certain months?

I wonder whether anyone has experience in making claim under this plan.

YOU ARE ALREADY CONCERNED WITH MAKING A CLAIM?

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

I hav research about legacy only and so may i ask what is OBW?

JESUS CHRIST! Is this an act or are you really "STUMP STUPID"??????
You type like your retarded, can't spell for shit, your a big (gotta be
300Lbs) bad ass computer programmer(in training) and can't spell a fucking
line without an error.
Tell me you have been to the Subaru website at least 25 times and STILL
don't know what a fucking "OBW" is? This has got to be a joke.
Did your mommy put you up to this? Does she know your on the computer?
This would be a tremendous act for "Jackie Martling" to do in one of his
shows.
Here is the clue 'O wonder of womanhood....it might just be a fucking
(O)ut(B)ack(W)agon..ya think?
Like I said before, I sure hope to hell your better in bed than in
reasoning, driving, making decisions, researching and general functioning
as you need ONE redeeming quality.
You have convinced us( the guys in the office read this shit) you don't have
a husband or boyfriend, no man would put up with you.

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

Now I see why she has little time, shes on "Talkback" all night long!
Look at the topics,look at the time of the posts.
She has been chewed out there for tons of typos.
Here is the good part...HEY AMANDA!!!!!
IS THE INS STILL LOOKING FOR YOU?
IS YOUR "STATUS" HERE NOW "ILLEGAL"???
ARE YOU STILL USING FAKE ADDRESS FOR THEM?
YOUR SISTER IS GOING TO BUY THE CAR FOR YOU AND INSURE IT,
BECAUSE YOU ARE RUNNING FROM THE INS?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 2000 NISSAN SENTRA YOU WERE DRIVING?
DOES YOUR FRATERNAL TWIN THINK YOUR AN ASSHOLE TOO???
Time to shut the hell up Amanda.

Really, this loser is an illegal alien, faces deportation and has a big
mouth. She is a professional "student" doesnt work and is a leech on
society.
Might be time to turn this all over to the INS, your ISP and Yahoo will roll
over(snitch,give up,inform) on you in a heartbeat.

Check it out guys, just google "amanda992004" and see what she has been up
to....

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

What's involved in that Doc process?

They're trying to charge you directly for what should be a no-charge
dealer service; filing the registration and taxes with the state and
ordering your plates. If you boldly challenge them that you can easily
take that stuff to the sub-courthouse/wherever and do it for less that
$45 they will likely waive the charge and do it anyway like they should.

That's a coupla tanks of gas. I have to work a long time to have after
tax money for 2 tanks of gas. As I said, they waive it more often than not.

Carl