DIY: A/C Recharge Kit

[BG]

Does the '00 Outback require any special fittings for a DIY air conditioning
recharge and is there a preference on kit brands?

TIA....b.gin

 

[Todd H.]

Does the '00 Outback require any special fittings for a DIY air conditioning
recharge and is there a preference on kit brands?

Our little blue marble has enough problems. I know it's unpopular to
give a shit about all the polar ice caps and glacial ice being thinner
than ever, but I'll be happy to encourage you to pay $100 for someone
certified to do an A/C service correctly and responsibly.

Best Regards,

 

[Brian]

Our little blue marble has enough problems. I know it's unpopular to
give a shit about all the polar ice caps and glacial ice being thinner
than ever, but I'll be happy to encourage you to pay $100 for someone
certified to do an A/C service correctly and responsibly.

Best Regards,

BTW, some glaciers are still growing. Things change and yet you find some
behavior to be also cyclical. Look at the big picture, not the popular one.
Global warming has nothing to do with peace. Try telling somebody in
Siberia you wish the world was a colder place. We could also worry over the
shifting of magnetic north while we're at it. This is supposed to be a
Subaru forum, not a political or geographical one.



Please have a good day,
~Brian

 

[Frank]

BTW, some glaciers are still growing. Things change and yet you find some
behavior to be also cyclical. Look at the big picture, not the popular one.
Global warming has nothing to do with peace. Try telling somebody in
Siberia you wish the world was a colder place. We could also worry over the
shifting of magnetic north while we're at it. This is supposed to be a
Subaru forum, not a political or geographical one.



Please have a good day,
~Brian

I just saw Gore's movie on Showtime when it was free last weekend. Good
show with nice pictures and I agree with a lot of it but one person
servicing his AC is a fart in a windstorm. We also know that Gore
doesn't follow any of his own advice at the end of the film not to
mention that new refrigerants do not harm the ozone layer
Frank
(chuckling to myself envisioning Gore on a bicycle)

 

[turkey]

And we know this because someone published the electricity bill of his
estate (which probably sees as much business and social life as a
Hilton Hotel) and seemed to think it should be in line with the huge
bills I receive for my wife and myself, while at the same time
declaring that Bush saves his rainwater in Crawford, Texas. That's a
run on sentence. Now someone thinks that in order to be sincere, he
should be riding a bicycle to Norway to receive the Nobel.
If I were in need, I probably wouldn't think twice about doing the job
myself. I've had enough of "professionals" charging me up the butt to
do things without as much care as I take. The new refrigerants
probably (by sheer volume) affect global warming more than the ozone
layer and so far it is a forgone conclusion that at some point, what
is put into a refrigeration system, especially on a car, will leak
out. The only real solution is to not do it at all. Somehow, the
warmer it gets, the less likely that becomes.

 

[Jakey]

I've recharged my 2000 Forester with the standard R134 charging hose
available at any auto store. Preferably get one with a gauge so you don't
overcharge.

 

[Rick Courtright]

than ever, but I'll be happy to encourage you to pay $100 for someone
certified to do an A/C service correctly and responsibly.

Hi,

Yawn... just woke up from a 20 year nap, and it seems nothing's changed.
I doubt anyone here's old enough to remember, but R-12 and R-22
refrigerants were developed to be "more environmentally friendly" than
the previously used ammonia-based products. I'm sure if I go back to
sleep and next come to in another 20 years, R-134 products will have
been "proven" (by the politicians, if not the scientists) to be "bad for
the environment," too.

BTW, has the R-12 link to the ozone "hole" ever been scientifically
PROVEN, or is it STILL just a theory as it was last time I researched it
a couple of years ago?

I'm not for intentionally destroying anything, but one must be careful
what "cause du jour" one buys into. I think I may still have one of the
heavy jackets I stockpiled for the "coming Ice Age" the Al Gores of the
day warned us about on April 22, 1970.

Someone will surely remember THAT date... (hopefully for reasons OTHER
than this little giggle?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day#The_significance_of_the_date )

Rick

 

[Bugalugs]

Hi,

Yawn... just woke up from a 20 year nap, and it seems nothing's changed.
I doubt anyone here's old enough to remember, but R-12 and R-22
refrigerants were developed to be "more environmentally friendly" than
the previously used ammonia-based products. I'm sure if I go back to
sleep and next come to in another 20 years, R-134 products will have
been "proven" (by the politicians, if not the scientists) to be "bad for
the environment," too.

BTW, has the R-12 link to the ozone "hole" ever been scientifically
PROVEN, or is it STILL just a theory as it was last time I researched it
a couple of years ago?

I'm not for intentionally destroying anything, but one must be careful
what "cause du jour" one buys into. I think I may still have one of the
heavy jackets I stockpiled for the "coming Ice Age" the Al Gores of the
day warned us about on April 22, 1970.

Someone will surely remember THAT date... (hopefully for reasons OTHER
than this little giggle?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day#The_significance_of_the_date )

Rick

I heard a radio report a couple of weeks ago that early predictions were
that the hole was going to be smaller this year.

 

[Todd H.]

I heard a radio report a couple of weeks ago that early predictions
were that the hole was going to be smaller this year.

Well let's have a party and everyone start a campfire!

This isn't directed specifically at Bugalugs, but the (sadly
predictable) reaction here in general: The public's soundbyte
attention span and Fox News intellect unfortunately does not bode well
for the future.

One would think it'd be common sense that if you have a chance to
either a) release a gas the EPA feels is dangerous enough to be
contained into the atmosphere or b) have them properly disposed for a
reasonable cost that b) would be the way to go. Apparently not,
though?

Justifications and politics aside, is it really so debateable and
controversial that humans are not having a positive impact on the
environment, and we could all do a bit more to lessen our footprint?

 

[Jim Stewart]

Hi,

Yawn... just woke up from a 20 year nap, and it seems nothing's changed.
I doubt anyone here's old enough to remember, but R-12 and R-22
refrigerants were developed to be "more environmentally friendly" than
the previously used ammonia-based products. I'm sure if I go back to
sleep and next come to in another 20 years, R-134 products will have
been "proven" (by the politicians, if not the scientists) to be "bad for
the environment," too.

R-12, R-22 and Freon in general were created
because of their low toxicity to humans. Imagine
a hose breaking inside the passenger compartment
and venting a couple pounds of anhydrous ammonia.
I'd not want to be there. Ammonia is still used
in large commercial installations.

There's rumors that Dow "helped" the banning of
the first generation Freons because the patents
were about to expire. Now they have another 20
year monopoly.

BTW, has the R-12 link to the ozone "hole" ever been scientifically
PROVEN, or is it STILL just a theory as it was last time I researched it
a couple of years ago?

I think it comes and goes, and, just like global
warming, impossible to tell if man has anything
to do with it.

 

[Todd H.]

BTW, has the R-12 link to the ozone "hole" ever been scientifically
PROVEN, or is it STILL just a theory as it was last time I researched it
a couple of years ago?

Dichlorodifluoromethane, CF2Cl2 (CFC-12 or R-12) contains
chlorine... and there isn't a lot of debate about the ozone depleting
properties of CFC's.

The chlorine works as a catalyst in the breakdown of O3. Tons of
resources out there on this, but here's a more accessible one:
http://www.atm.ch.cam.ac.uk/tour/part3.html


And everything in science is a theory, a theory based on taking the
facts known at the time, and assembled into a theory that matches all
the observations. Theories sometimes end up wrong, but it's not
terribly wise to use that as a justification to think any given theory
is entirely groundless.

For instance, there are plenty of right wing religious nutjobs using
this "evolution is just a theory!" argument to try to convince us
that evolution didn't occur either (despite the mountain of scientific
evidence to the contrary).

Best Regards,

 

[Bugalugs]

Well let's have a party and everyone start a campfire!

This isn't directed specifically at Bugalugs, but the (sadly
predictable) reaction here in general: The public's soundbyte
attention span and Fox News intellect unfortunately does not bode well
for the future.

Well I wasn't really advocating that any A/C gas be released. the
comment was more pointing out that everyone is told that the ozone hole
is there and how it is getting bigger. But nobody tells you it's getting
smaller. Not scary newsworthy.