Definition of a SUV

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nothermark

I see Subaru is redefining the SUV. My definition is a vehicle I can
strap ski's, bikes and canoe's on or take a load of trash to the dump
with. I wonder what they think it is.

;-)
 
They think it is something that will get them more money from folks who
otherwise wouldn't consider a Soob.

Carl
 
nothermark said:
I see Subaru is redefining the SUV. My definition is a vehicle I can
strap ski's, bikes and canoe's on or take a load of trash to the dump
with. I wonder what they think it is.

;-)

That sounds to me like a station wagon.

Except I prefer to spend NZ$12 (US$8) to hire a trailer from the nearest
gas station for a couple of hours if I want to take icky trash or very
large objects somewhere.
 
That sounds to me like a station wagon.

Except I prefer to spend NZ$12 (US$8) to hire a trailer from the nearest
gas station for a couple of hours if I want to take icky trash or very
large objects somewhere.

Hmm, another thought. Checked - Stock Tribeca only tows 2000 lbs -
less than Forester.

My real complaint is that what started as the functional vehicle for
hauling stuff has degenerated into a land yacht useless for the basic
definition of the class.

The Tribeca reminds me of the B-2. I used to work for a reserve pilot
who was hot about the B2 bomber until he was briefed on it. It seemed
it could hold more bombs, electronic countermeasures or defensive
weapons than the B52. The problem was it could only do two of those
three at one time. You eithe rcould go there and probably come back
with no bombs or get detected and killed with them.

The Tribeca class SUV you can haul 4 or 5 largish folks without
luggage for a week or two with luggage. Forget room for Toys. At
least the Chrysler,Ford&GM units in that class will tow. The Tribeca
appears to be an outsized version of the mini SUV that is neither
sporty nor utility as opposed to the "dressed up truck". I don't see
it as sporty or utility, but it's got "style". Not.
 
Hmm, another thought. Checked - Stock Tribeca only tows 2000 lbs -
less than Forester.

My real complaint is that what started as the functional vehicle for
hauling stuff has degenerated into a land yacht useless for the basic
definition of the class.

The Tribeca reminds me of the B-2. I used to work for a reserve pilot
who was hot about the B2 bomber until he was briefed on it. It seemed
it could hold more bombs, electronic countermeasures or defensive
weapons than the B52. The problem was it could only do two of those
three at one time. You eithe rcould go there and probably come back
with no bombs or get detected and killed with them.

The Tribeca class SUV you can haul 4 or 5 largish folks without
luggage for a week or two with luggage. Forget room for Toys. At
least the Chrysler,Ford&GM units in that class will tow. The Tribeca
appears to be an outsized version of the mini SUV that is neither
sporty nor utility as opposed to the "dressed up truck". I don't see
it as sporty or utility, but it's got "style". Not.

Oops, just heard another commercial. Make that 7 people without toys
and luggage.

;-(
 
Subaru is in deep s**t if they think that tribeca will redefine and
revolutionize the SUV. Ugly , overpriced, no towing no rugged appeal.
I'm glad I got an 04 Outback as I'm afraid it will be the last decent
vehicle that Subaru made. I was looking forward to buying anither in
the future but Subaru is out. The worst part of the name is that
Subaru named it after a well known homosexual enclave in New York City.
Those not in the NY metro may not know this.
 
nothermark said:
I see Subaru is redefining the SUV. My definition is a vehicle I can
strap ski's, bikes and canoe's on or take a load of trash to the dump
with. I wonder what they think it is.

;-)


Then my wife's Honda Civic hatchback is an SUV.
 
I see Subaru is redefining the SUV. My definition is a vehicle I can
strap ski's, bikes and canoe's on or take a load of trash to the dump
with. I wonder what they think it is.

;-)

I think they are shooting more for the Chrysler Pacifica. SUV meets station
(I mean) sports wagon.
 
Subaru is in deep s**t if they think that tribeca will redefine and
revolutionize the SUV. Ugly , overpriced, no towing no rugged appeal.
I'm glad I got an 04 Outback as I'm afraid it will be the last decent
vehicle that Subaru made. I was looking forward to buying anither in
the future but Subaru is out. The worst part of the name is that
Subaru named it after a well known homosexual enclave in New York City.
Those not in the NY metro may not know this.

Subaru didn't name it after the enclave, and I don't know what you're
talking about re: the last decent vehicle. The WRX' and STis are superb
vehicles that only improve as the years wear on.

Thanks for your learned opinion on the future of Subaru, though: I'm sure
you're well-qualified to give it.

--
 
I see Subaru is redefining the SUV. My definition is a vehicle I can
strap ski's, bikes and canoe's on or take a load of trash to the dump
with. I wonder what they think it is.

;-)

S.U.V. = Stupid Useless Vehicle
 
The WRX' and STis are superb
vehicles that only improve as the years wear on. <<

Fine for boy racers and those who desire high performance.w/o
practicality. Tow with and STi? Not recommended. Roof rack? Have to
buy it. Carry large loads? No. I'm glad they sell the Sti but to me
its pointless to spend that kind of money on a car like that. The
2000-04 Outbacks were the perfect SUV alternative. Great in rough
road/all weather. Okay towing and roomy enough to be practical with the
ability to carry gear plus a unique body design. The new ones have
poor ergonomics, typical bland Jap styling and nothing special in any
dept. If my OBW was stolen or totalled tomorrow I wouldnt even consider
an 05 subaru.
But the name is the same and the commercial makes the vehicle seem
wimpy. I wouldnt buy any vehicle with a ridiculous name like that.
 
I see you're in VT. If you've visited lower manhettan in the greenwich
village area you'd probably describe it is as an enclave for want of a
more PC description. The vehicle itself lacks sorely for "toughness" so
I see the association between the name and the area. Another example
of awful model names like the nissan "Morono" Please dont buy Subaru's
reasoning for the name. I've lost all respect for them their designers
and engineers with the crap they call the 2005 outback and now this
tribeca garbage.


Tribeca is a popular Manhattan neighborhood. Many families live there.
I have never heard it described as a homosexual enclave. <<
 
Subaru is in deep s**t if they think that tribeca will redefine and
revolutionize the SUV. Ugly , overpriced, no towing no rugged appeal.
I'm glad I got an 04 Outback as I'm afraid it will be the last decent
vehicle that Subaru made. I was looking forward to buying anither in
the future but Subaru is out. The worst part of the name is that
Subaru named it after a well known homosexual enclave in New York City.
Those not in the NY metro may not know this.

You're kidding, right? There's a heck of a lot to recommend about the
Tribeca section of Manhattan. It may have gays, but it's not the most
gay-dense section. And so what if it is?

Tom
 
k. ote said:
Subaru didn't name it after the enclave, and I don't know what you're
talking about re: the last decent vehicle. The WRX' and STis are superb
vehicles that only improve as the years wear on.

Thanks for your learned opinion on the future of Subaru, though: I'm sure
you're well-qualified to give it.


How do you know it wasn't named after the Tribeca section of Manhattan?
Where else would the name come from? Tribeca stands for "triangle below
Canal [street]".

Tom
 
I see you're in VT. If you've visited lower manhettan in the greenwich
village area you'd probably describe it is as an enclave for want of a
more PC description.

Tribeca is not the Greenwich Village.
Your obsession with homosexuality is getting in the way of the facts.
My advice: Stay away.

florian /FFF/
 
Tribeca is not the Greenwich Village.
Your obsession with homosexuality is getting in the way of the facts.
My advice: Stay away.

Great advice. Please follow it: the homosexuals will appreciate your
doing so.
 
S.U.V. = Stupid Useless Vehicle

Not true! look at it's roots. The original vehicles were really
improvements on the old jeep CJ series. They provided a vehicle that
one could load with tools, bags of feed, (utility) or gear and people
with a trailer and/or roof racks and go into areas where one needed
the extra ground clearance and 4 wheel drive to negotiate approach
roads, boat ramps farm tracks, etc. The old IH Scout or the original
Blazer are good examples. Unfortunately the federal government
created a problem with the fleet milage laws. Trucks were exempt (as
they need to be!) but SUV's were considered trucks. People who needed
the towing capacity of their 57 chevy with room for the kids shifted
to utilty vehicles. Detroit figured out they could add $2000 worth of
comfort features and charge $10,000 more. One can still use many of
the US made vehicles in those roles. The problem I see is that the
automakers also cloned off the unibody look alikes that won't really
do any of the basic uses well but are "pretty". I consider the
Tribeca the epitome of the genre. The small ones make some sense as
they won't handle a load but they are usefull for folks who need to
just get small loads through a lot of less than ideal driving
conditions. The big ones are a farce.

BTW, I used to know city folks with SUV's until I started driving in
the city a lot. At least in the northeast I city streets in the
winter are worse than farm roads because of potholes in the pavement
and holes and ruts in poorly plowed side roads where there is no place
to shove the snow to if a plow tries. Then you sit behind one a
MickyD's and watch them pass in food to a family where momma goes
better than 200 lbs, poppa looks like and ex linebacker and the 3 kids
could use my Hyundai as a basketball. The durango's, expeditions and
escalades fill that niche nicely if one can afford them.
 
In Bellevue here, lot's of men by their fat wives SUV's so they'll have
something to fit them in.

It's pretty gross, but understandable.
 
that is what I read. dunno if its true.

Carl


Tom said:
k. ote said:
Subaru didn't name it after the enclave, and I don't know what you're
talking about re: the last decent vehicle. The WRX' and STis are superb
vehicles that only improve as the years wear on.

Thanks for your learned opinion on the future of Subaru, though: I'm sure
you're well-qualified to give it.


How do you know it wasn't named after the Tribeca section of Manhattan?
Where else would the name come from? Tribeca stands for "triangle below
Canal [street]".

Tom
 

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