Charging mileage

[wood_ma]

When you charge a Solterra, it is supposed to give you 220 miles to drive. When I first got the Sollterra it would charge to 225 miles. It has steadily gone down on each charge since then. It currently will only charge to 195 miles.
I am curious what other owners get out of a charge or if anyone else has this problem.

 

[Paumic]

Same issue on my side. I own a Solterra since almost 1 year. The autonomy is reduced according to driving style, use of racks (air friction) and cold weather. Actually, with cold January weather, I am topping around 250 km with eco climatization.
The worst is that the fast charging is poor, car only accepts around 25% or less at charging stations. I will start another tred on this.

 

[venturi1962]

Hello from a former Solterra owner. It was my third EV, the previous being a Nissan leaf and we currently own a Tesla Model 3. Mileage range estimate is just that, an estimate. Projected range is highly dependent on things like ambient temperature and your previous driving behavior. For instance, if you drove up to higher elevation, your vehicle battery remembers the rate of discharge and estimates, averages maybe, and assumes your next driving will be similar. Sort of like with an ICE it gives you real-time MPG and a cumulative MPG until you reset the odometer.

I was so deeply disappointed with the "fast" charging, I traded in at a huge loss. Decided to cut my losses as waiting until the end of the 3-year lease probably would have been worse.

On an almost 500 journey to Southern Oregon I spent 7 hours each way charging, on all so called high-output charging stations. One, a very new looking EVGO, proudly displayed 350kw "ultra super-duper fast".

Baloney. It took more than two hours just to get me to where I could reach the next station. For the entire drive I averaged around 150-160 miles. Now, getting through the Shasta-Siskiyou section of I-5 entails a fair amount of climbing. About 4,500 feet, but after that it was relatively flat.

Traded for a Model Y, (yes I know, Elan blah blah) Twenty minutes tops to go from 15% to 85%. Sometimes faster. He may be evil but he's an evil genius. And, he employs 121,000 workers at four U.S. plants.

My advice, don't let your politics prevent you buying an American car.

 

[bmart]

Elon is hardly evil. Pelosi, on the other hand... But let's leave one corner of the Internet without political fights!

From Car & Driver:

Range, Charging, and Battery Life​

Subaru says the gross capacity of the Solterra's battery pack is 72.8 kWh. The Premium trim carries an EPA-estimated range of 227 miles, while the Limited and Touring trims are rated at 222 miles. On our 75-mph fuel economy route, which is part of our extensive testing regimen, the Solterra managed just 200 miles. Plugged into a Level 2 charging station, Subaru says the Solterra's onboard 6.6-kW charger enables recharging the battery in nine hours. Hook it up to a 100-kW DC fast-charger and an 80-percent charge is claimed to take about 35 minutes. In Car and Driver's recharging test, the Solterra maxed out at a rate of 99 kW and averaged 67 kW, taking 48 minutes to refill the battery from 10 to 90 percent.

Fuel Economy and Real-World MPGe​

The 2024 Solterra has earned an EPA fuel economy rating as high as 104 MPGe combined. For more information about the Solterra's fuel economy, visit the EPA's website.

From Consumer Reports:
But it managed to drive only 210 miles during our 70-mph highway range test, which is notably shorter than rival EVs. The 215 hp its motors produce is also less than the competition, but the power is smooth and predictable. With a weak 6.6-kilowatt onboard charger, home charging is on the slow side. A maximum acceptance rate of just 100 kW at DC fast-charging stations is also skimpy.

Tons of info available about the charging situation. Did you research first? What made you choose this model instead of a "better" EV?

 

[Dick Foster]

From engineering and real science standpoints, EVs are a cruel joke played on the technically illiterate. Your liberal arts degree in basket weaving or gay art history is not going to help you one little bit here.
Start with energy conversion and transmission losses, facts of physics, and go from there.
Also remember that the tooth fairy does not put the electrical energy in the wall socket, like as not fossil fuel was burned somewhere to put it there.
Its also good to remember that they have a nasty habit of burning into oblivion when flooded like the recent storms in Florida or the fires in LA showed us. Those lithium batteries used are chock full of highly volitile hydrocarbon chemicals.
Then too, you have to expend extra energy to haul all of that extra weight around.
Nuff said.
Wanna save the planet? Start with a sensible way to power the grid. Something like thorium fueled breeder reactors to provide cheap, safe and clean electrical energy. Only then do EVs become a sensable alternative.

 

[hroberts65616]

From engineering and real science standpoints, EVs are a cruel joke played on the technically illiterate. Your liberal arts degree in basket weaving or gay art history is not going to help you one little bit here.
Start with energy conversion and transmission losses, facts of physics, and go from there.
Also remember that the tooth fairy does not put the electrical energy in the wall socket, like as not fossil fuel was burned somewhere to put it there.
Its also good to remember that they have a nasty habit of burning into oblivion when flooded like the recent storms in Florida or the fires in LA showed us. Those lithium batteries used are chock full of highly volitile hydrocarbon chemicals.
Then too, you have to expend extra energy to haul all of that extra weight around.
Nuff said.
Wanna save the planet? Start with a sensible way to power the grid. Something like thorium fueled breeder reactors to provide cheap, safe and clean electrical energy. Only then do EVs become a sensable alternative.

Oh come on man. It's not the tooth fairy, it's the electricity fairy. I watched her, blowing into my Solterra one night late when I forgot something in the car.

 

[Dick Foster]

LOL

I think the bud has fallen off the EV rose as the market appears to be wiseing up. It's getting hard to unload that EV crap on the public today.

 

[Wesnah73]

But the rich wouldn't get richer if you brought in cheap energy. It's always been there, but money can't be made from it. If anything, bring more hybrids into the mix.
And, since Thorium can't be used to make weapons, government funding has been scarce.

 

[Dick Foster]

Yep

But the rich wouldn't get richer if you brought in cheap energy. It's always been there, but money can't be made from it. If anything, bring more hybrids into the mix.
And, since Thorium can't be used to make weapons, government funding has been scarce.

Yep!

 

[venturi1962]

From engineering and real science standpoints, EVs are a cruel joke played on the technically illiterate. Your liberal arts degree in basket weaving or gay art history is not going to help you one little bit here.
Start with energy conversion and transmission losses, facts of physics, and go from there.
Also remember that the tooth fairy does not put the electrical energy in the wall socket, like as not fossil fuel was burned somewhere to put it there.
Its also good to remember that they have a nasty habit of burning into oblivion when flooded like the recent storms in Florida or the fires in LA showed us. Those lithium batteries used are chock full of highly volitile hydrocarbon chemicals.
Then too, you have to expend extra energy to haul all of that extra weight around.
Nuff said.
Wanna save the planet? Start with a sensible way to power the grid. Something like thorium fueled breeder reactors to provide cheap, safe and clean electrical energy. Only then do EVs become a sensable alternative.

Wow, because you have a technical degree you get to be a morally superior!!??? So, continuing to burn hydrocarbon fuel at an expanding rate is a better alternative? The hydrocarbons in an EV battery are more volatile than gasoline? Wow! That defies logic to a degree we rarely see among thinking humans. Gee, I guess terrorists will start throwing battery-powered Molotov cocktails? An ICE vehicle is powered by timed series of controlled explosions within COMBUSTION CHAMBERS!!!

Flooded cars is how you disparage EVs compared to ICE vehicles? How did you come up with this line of reasoning? You're a perfect example of a technologist who lacks basic reasoning and evaluation skills. Your education has failed you or you are willfully using it to spread disinformation.

How about the motor oil, coolant, unburned fuel released when a ICE vehicle floods? How is this better? Submerged ICE vehicles are THE biggest single source of contamination in floodwaters. You may be "technically" literate. When you use your education to spread disinformation in a forum for people who own EVs to show your contempt, mainly the impression you leave is one of egomania. You're just sad, small human who seems to need a hug. Or a beer.

 

[bmart]

Submerged ICE vehicles are THE biggest single source of contamination in floodwaters.

Please post this site if you have it. Very interesting. I'd like to know if this is the same group as the cow fart people.

 

[Dick Foster]

Wow, because you have a technical degree you get to be a morally superior!!??? So, continuing to burn hydrocarbon fuel at an expanding rate is a better alternative? The hydrocarbons in an EV battery are more volatile than gasoline? Wow! That defies logic to a degree we rarely see among thinking humans. Gee, I guess terrorists will start throwing battery-powered Molotov cocktails? An ICE vehicle is powered by timed series of controlled explosions within COMBUSTION CHAMBERS!!!

Flooded cars is how you disparage EVs compared to ICE vehicles? How did you come up with this line of reasoning? You're a perfect example of a technologist who lacks basic reasoning and evaluation skills. Your education has failed you or you are willfully using it to spread disinformation.

How about the motor oil, coolant, unburned fuel released when a ICE vehicle floods? How is this better? Submerged ICE vehicles are THE biggest single source of contamination in floodwaters. You may be "technically" literate. When you use your education to spread disinformation in a forum for people who own EVs to show your contempt, mainly the impression you leave is one of egomania. You're just sad, small human who seems to need a hug. Or a beer.

Submerged EV cars catch fire and burn completely up.
Those lithium batteries that short out and burn are full of very volatile organic solvents.

Maybe you should try getting a clue and learn something other than just being a drooling idiot and follower who knows nothing about anything.

BTW the tooth fairy doesn't provide the power to charge EVs so all you're doing is moving the pollution somewhere else while spending a lot of money for an inefficient burner of fossil fuels. Every time energy is converted some is lost to heat, then there's the transmission loss to get the power to the charger and the extra weight of the batteries to haul around. 80% of the electric grid in the US is fueled with fossil fuels. In the long run, you're likely much dirtier than a regular car.

 

[Wesnah73]

I do really like the idea of using an EV for trips of less than 25 miles.
And they really should do a better job of cleaner diesel vehicles.

 

[Dick Foster]

I do really like the idea of using an EV for trips of less than 25 miles.
And they really should do a better job of cleaner diesel vehicles.

What we really need is a clean and economical source of power to power the grid. If we had that, then EVs or even hydrogen powered cars would make a lot more sense. Until then we're stuck with the fossil based stuff.

Along those lines, I recommend that everyone aquaint themselves with thorium fueled nuclear fission. It's safe, clean and we have lots if the stuff just laying around. However, economics and politics being what they are, getting serious effort behind it is very difficult. Big oil would lose out big time and that means money and ultimately politics. Just search thorium on the web. There is tons and tons of info on it, going as deep into the technology, physics and engineering as anyone would want along with very top level stuff that almost anyone can get their head around. And it has already been proven to work so there are no stumbling blocks of physics to overcome, as with fusion. Pilot programs were run in the late 50s and early 60s. It's simply matters of adoption and scaling.
All ya gotta do is replace the heat source at existing power plants from fossil fueled fires with thorium fueled nuclear reactors and were halfway there already.