bogus invoice on subaru

[chopperhorn]

i've been checking out forester X's in NJ for the $2000
back during february

something strange

all websites show invoice as 19,685.00
dealers insist invoice is 20,598
( which seems absurd, as MSRP is 21295 )

what gives ?

 

[Frank Logullo]

i've been checking out forester X's in NJ for the $2000
back during february

something strange

all websites show invoice as 19,685.00
dealers insist invoice is 20,598
( which seems absurd, as MSRP is 21295 )

what gives ?

Is he tacking on some of his own upgrades. Lot of dealers add pin stripes
etc and soak the hell out of you for it.
Frank

 

[chopperhorn]

no.
i've been getting all my quotes over the internet and they're all
claiming this bogus invoice number

 

[st asia]

i've been checking out forester X's in NJ for the $2000
back during february

something strange

all websites show invoice as 19,685.00
dealers insist invoice is 20,598
( which seems absurd, as MSRP is 21295 )

what gives ?

They are jackin you around...typical Subaru dealer philosophy.

 

[H]

Dealer Invoice means nothing. The number you need to start negotiations from
is dealer cost. These are hard numbers. In Canada these are available
through Carcost Canada .com or similar sort of website. You will have to pay
about $20 for this information, but it's the only meaningful number based in
fact. Even armed with these numbers the dealers still have a hold back based
on the volume of units sold, or often when manufacturers need to clear
inventory. Again, DEALER INVOICE MEANS NOTHING. It is simply a number that
dealers want you to start negotiations from, don't fall for it.


H

 

[Frank Logullo]

They are jackin you around...typical Subaru dealer philosophy.

All car dealers, not just Subaru, "jack you around". Funny story from a
relative that is a retired car salesman:
Potential buyer had done intensive internet search, came armed with
information and demanded price on car which he was given. Family member
said if buyer had negotiated further he probably could have saved another
thousand dollars but relative was glad to accede to buyer demands and make
an extra thousand dollar profit
Frank

 

[Edward Hayes]

My suby dealer adds pin stripping AND an envormental package to all
incoming new vehicles. He adds 1,495 dollars. I laughed and said
environment package against acid rain in SW Florida? and I don't like
pin striping. He smiled and said he'd work with me on the added value
package. He didn't and I ordered a new Forester with the written and
signed paper that NO added anything. This is common problem with all
manufactures and dealers. I just look at the new cars on the lot and
see most are loaded up with high priced accessories I don't want.
Manufactures force most of this on the dealer and if not then the
dealer does his add-ons. Sorry state of affairs and the only way to
counter this is to order and wait patiently for your new car. I think
that shop prices are so high now because the informed consumer now
knows what the dealers are paying and the old higher profits are not
there so the shop end is supporting the selling end of the business.
Makes sense to me. ed