Engine fires in WRX's

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

I posted about this before, but you didnt believe it (boneheads)
Go look up NHTSA complaint # 04V473000.
I quote " Cover bolts(the oil control valve) may not be sufficiently
tightened, resulting in engine fires when the leaking oil comes in contact
with high temp components"
I guess the factory donkey's cant use a torque-wrench or the cars ARE
assembled with slipjoint pliers.

 

[Rick Courtright]

I posted about this before, but you didnt believe it (boneheads)

Whether your point's true or not, you think calling the group
"boneheads" and the people who assemble the cars "donkeys" helps your
case?

Maybe somebody can wave their wand and say the magic words... "Raaa...
stis... faaa... foofnik!" and "poof!" you'll disappear.

Rick

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

I posted about this before, but you didnt believe it (boneheads)
Go look up NHTSA complaint # 04V473000.
I quote " Cover bolts(the oil control valve) may not be sufficiently
tightened, resulting in engine fires when the leaking oil comes in contact
with high temp components"
I guess the factory donkey's cant use a torque-wrench or the cars ARE
assembled with slipjoint pliers.

Potentially 26 vehicles affected out of the thousands sold in 2004. What's
your point? Recalls are fairly common and all the auto manufacturers have
had POTENTIALLY serious problems corrected. For example Chrysler just
recalled 1.2 MILLION minivans for an airbag problem
<http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/041013-2.htm>.

Here are the details of the Subaru recall:

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
SUBARU / BAJA 2004

SUBARU / FORESTER 2004

SUBARU / IMPREZA 2004

Manufacturer : SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC.

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V473000 Recall Date : SEP 27, 2004
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 26
Summary:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER AND SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, THE COVER BOLTS FOR THE
ENGINE OIL CONTROL VALVE MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENTLY TIGHTENED, ALLOWING OIL TO
LEAK FROM AROUND THE COVER GASKET.
Consequence:
IF LEAKING OIL CONTACTS COMPONENTS OPERATING AT HIGH TEMPERATURES, A FIRE
COULD RESULT IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND RETIGHTEN THE OIL-FLOW CONTROL VALVE COVER BOLTS.
THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OCTOBER 10, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT
SUBARU AT 1-800-782-2783.

 

[FNO]

Whether your point's true or not, you think calling the group
"boneheads" and the people who assemble the cars "donkeys" helps your
case?

Maybe somebody can wave their wand and say the magic words... "Raaa...
stis... faaa... foofnik!" and "poof!" you'll disappear.

Rick

You'll have to ignore him. He is still pissed at having his Ford womped by
a WRX

 

[CompUser]

Here are the details of the Subaru recall:

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
SUBARU / BAJA 2004

SUBARU / FORESTER 2004

SUBARU / IMPREZA 2004

Manufacturer : SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC.

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V473000 Recall Date : SEP 27, 2004
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 26
Summary:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER AND SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, THE COVER BOLTS FOR THE
ENGINE OIL CONTROL VALVE MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENTLY TIGHTENED, ALLOWING OIL TO
LEAK FROM AROUND THE COVER GASKET.

Thanks for posting...anyone have info on what the
"oil control valve" does, and where it's at?
Nevah heard of such a beast...

 

[hippo]

No idea, but when I find out it may help me cure a multitude of ancient
motor cycles too!

 

[Gadgets]

Oil pressure switch / relief valve?

04STi:
http://jaswebpics.com/01General Description.pdf
http://jaswebpics.com/06Oil Pressure Switch.pdf

Cheers, Jason (remove ... to reply)
Video & Gaming: http://gadgetaus.com

 

[CompUser]

Oil pressure switch / relief valve?

04STi:
http://jaswebpics.com/01General Description.pdf
http://jaswebpics.com/06Oil Pressure Switch.pdf

Hmmm...maybe it's just poor choice of terminology
on Subaru's part, calling it a "control"
valve...the "pressure switch" looks like what we
commonly call a "send unit" in US, it's just a
pressure sensor, basically...so that shouldn't be
it, but who knows. I didn't see anything else in
the pdfs that sounded like a "control" valve.
Semi-annoying, too, I just happened to be in my
dealership a couple of days ago (it's a 120 mile
round trip), and no one mentioned it!

 

[K R Larkin]

I looked it up, Dr. Fafoofnik. No such number in NHTSA data base...and
their search engine doesn't come up with anything when you ask about Subaru
engine fires.

I think you might be full of Fafoofnik!

 

[Hallraker]

Hmmm...maybe it's just poor choice of terminology
on Subaru's part, calling it a "control"
valve...the "pressure switch" looks like what we
commonly call a "send unit" in US, it's just a
pressure sensor, basically...so that shouldn't be
it, but who knows. I didn't see anything else in
the pdfs that sounded like a "control" valve.
Semi-annoying, too, I just happened to be in my
dealership a couple of days ago (it's a 120 mile
round trip), and no one mentioned it!

Subaru has a long history of making up their own names for commonly named
parts. I recall a thread from a while back discussing just that. All I
remember was a Nixon-era service manual that referred to the turbo wastegate
as a "watergate" or something like that.

-Matt

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

I looked it up, Dr. Fafoofnik. No such number in NHTSA data base...and
their search engine doesn't come up with anything when you ask about Subaru
engine fires.

I think you might be full of Fafoofnik!

Are you BLIND "Larkin"??? others HAVE found the article I referred to. Just
keep driving, when you see smoke and flames from under the hood you might
think Dr. Fafoofnik MIGHT have given you the straight scoop (you
idiot)."Slander and lies" yeah right, read ALL the posts here BEFORE getting
all excited that a person said something non-complimentary about your crappy
Subaru.I just read a interesting report in a driver magazine, listing the 10
quickest FACTORY production cars in the WORLD (not just the US ofA) and
Subaru was not on the list (imagine that). But I did see a few american cars
and other imports.

You just keep driving that window squeaking, grinding transmission, slipping
clutch, gurgling, A/C wont work at stoplights, battery not charging around
town, ABS brake failing, paint peeling, engine fires,piss-poor resale value,
rebuild engine in 4 year pile of recycled beercans. Keep telling yourself
this is a RACE CAR and that this shit is normal for a car in this class
(trying to not laugh).I bust out laughing each time I see one with that
stupid "Whaletail" on it hahahaha.

Whats REALLY funny is when squids( like YOU Larkin) bring these cheapo cars
to the drag strip on "Run what you brung" nite. The tree goes green, all you
hear is mousefarts(that 4 inch trashcan exhaust really adds horsepower
hahaha),the clutch can't handle the load so the driver burns the shit out of
it. The other cars are out of the hole a LOT FASTER. By the time the Subaru
wakes up, the street stock Camero(legal too),Mustang 302,American Muscle car
is gone! While it IS true your little beercans will smoke a Honda Civic, a
Prelude,a Titan pickup truck,a Kia Sephia and even a 245Hp Altima... however
IT'S NO MATCH for a car with a real engine on a dragstrip.Forget about even
thinking of running a motorcycle, even a 883 Harley Sportster will smoke
your ass.
Your subarus are pathetic

 

[Sven]

Plonk

 

[GW De Lacey]

Your subarus are pathetic

I don't see many vehicles with figures like 0-100 (kph) in the early
4's, bog standard using bowser fuel, whilst retaining a 100,000k
warranty, with consumption figures similar to the average shopping
trolley.
The STi does that. Any others?

 

[schema]

I have been driving Subarus since 1979.

My current ride is a heavily modified 98 Outback Sport, with a 2.5 RS
engine.

Now although my ride is fast and very torquey I don't bost that I can beat
the mustang GT or Camro on the strip. But when ever anyone
challenges me I remind them the the Subaru is really built for rallying. I
then invite them to race me down one of our deep woods dirt roads
nearby where I live. For those that accept, I blow them away. They can't
accelerate in the dirt, they can't hold the corners, and they have
very poor stablilty. So lets not compare apples and oranges.

The Subaru is a well built, well engineered vehicle. I have had 10 of them
and I have driven them all over 250,000 miles with routine maintainance.
It used to be that on a quiet night you could hear them rust, but not any
more.

Now the STI is a differant animal. If I had one I would accept any
chalange from the Mexican and Canadian made mustangs and cameros.
My freind has one and recently left a Chevy SS with a 396 big block in his
dust. By the time the SS stopped spinning its rear wheels the STI
was already half way down the quarter mile strip.

I also worked as a technician for six years. Two at a Ford garage and the
remainder at a Subaru garage. Any guess as to which garage had
the most non routine repairs. Yup, the Fix Or Repair Daily one.

Subarus rock.

By the way, I never heard of a Sube blowing up with a gas tank fire from
getting hit from behind. Not so Ford! Anyone remember the Pinto?

 

[GW De Lacey]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:49:32 -0400, schema wrote:

Subarus rock.

<SNIP>

Steady on old bean, I'm on *your* side.