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[amanda992004]

What engine in the Camry? The 2.4l 4 cyl. engine or the V6?

Is 2.4L I-4 160 HP in Camries called 4 cyl. engine? I heard bad news
about V6; so no V6 for me.

What engine for the Legacy? Turbo or no turbo?

2.5L H-4 250 HP (this is turbo, right?) versus 2.5L H-4 168 HP (no
turbo?). I prefer the former.

With the 4cyl. engine, go with the Legacy, otherwise pick the Camry

Is this suggestion because UNLESS I get turbo in Subaru legacy (i.e
2.5 GT), it's not even worth bothering getting a Subaru legacy?

unless you drive in the snow 6 months a year..

No snow here. I will have a garage to keep my car.

The reason I am resuming my interest in Subaru over Camry is that I
really love my friend's Subaru 2.5 GT. I don't know much about cars
in detail but I know that I really like the control he has with his 2.5
GT. I feel so comfortable sitting in front passenger seat; do not feel
motion during turns like poeplw ould feel when I turn (in my front
wheel drive Nissan Sentra or previously owned Honda Civic.

I hardly will have people sitting in the back seat and so I am not too
concern about the space in the back area that some people point out in
Subaru. I would pull the driver seat so close to the steering wheel
that the back should have enough room left.

Is it going to be REAL headache w.r.t maintenance to own a Subaru 2.5GT
in this city of (Sacramento) ?

 

[Rick Courtright]

2.5L H-4 250 HP (this is turbo, right?) versus 2.5L H-4 168 HP (no
turbo?). I prefer the former.

Thoughts on turbos: IF longevity is an issue for you (it is for me, for
some I know it's not) you'll probably find the reports of long-lived
Subarus tend to favor the non-turbo models. Put a 5 spd behind the
non-turbo, make the rev counter your friend, and the 168 hp engine
should do you fine. Put an automatic behind it, and you might as well
find a parking place in the shade. That applies to the Camry, too, if
you can find a 4 cyl w/ a 5 spd. (I have little good to say about autos
behind 4 cyl engines--others won't necessarily share my feelings.)

Pulling 250 hp from a 2.5l engine's a fair amount of power, but
remember, it will come at a cost in longevity (and possible operating
cost?)

As for keeping up a Subie in your neighborhood, Auburn Subaru gets
consistent high marks from those who've patronized them. Depending on
where in the Sac area you are, it may or may not be a bit of a hike. If
I'm not mistaken, aren't there some big auto malls south of town down
near Florin Rd or heading toward Elk Grove, too? Might find a dealer
there, as well.

Good luck!

Rick

 

[Jim Stewart]

Rick Courtright wrote:

(I have little good to say about autos

behind 4 cyl engines--others won't necessarily share my feelings.)

I felt the same way until I drove my wife's WRX.

 

[amanda992004]

I have little good to say about autos

I felt the same way until I drove my wife's WRX.

Care to elaborate? Pardon me for not getting it completely.

 

[amanda992004]

Thoughts on turbos: IF longevity is an issue for you (it is for me,
for some I know

it's not) you'll probably find the reports of long-lived Subarus tend to favor the non-
turbo models. Put a 5 spd behind the non-turbo, make the rev counter your friend,
and the 168 hp engine should do you fine. Put an automatic behind it, and you
might as well find a parking place in the shade. That applies to the Camry, too, if
you can find a 4 cyl w/ a 5 spd. (I have little good to say about autos
behind 4 cyl engines--others won't necessarily share my feelings.)

Pulling 250 hp from a 2.5l engine's a fair amount of power, but remember, it will
come at a cost in longevity (and possible operating cost?)

Something to think about for sure.

As for keeping up a Subie in your neighborhood, Auburn Subaru gets
consistent high marks from those who've patronized them.

I am kind of new to CA. When you say Auburn Subaru, do you mean the
city of Auburn, not the street named Auburn Blvd (in Sacramento),
right?
There is Maita Toyota on Auburn Blvd where my friend bought his Subie
from.

Depending on where in the Sac area you are, it may or may not be a

bit of a hike.

I am close to freeway; I don't like to drive too far cus I'm kind of
tired with exams and moving too - but I will if I must.

If I'm not mistaken, aren't there some big auto malls south of town down
near Florin Rd or heading toward Elk Grove, too?

Yes, there is an auto mall in Elk Grove.

 

[Jim Stewart]

Care to elaborate? Pardon me for not getting it completely.

Sure. I drove a few 4 cyl cars with auto transmissions
in my life. They all sucked. Badly.

I drove my wife's WRX with an auto. It doesn't suck.
It's actually kinda fun, though I would have bought
a stick myself.

She has a knee injury that's worsened with continual
use of a clutch so she needs an auto.

 

[BobN]

Sure. I drove a few 4 cyl cars with auto transmissions
in my life. They all sucked. Badly.

Generally true, but with age I've developed an appreciation for the best
solution to a given problem. When I bought my OB in 1998 I was doing a huge
amount of driving both in cities such as NYC, Boston, Philly, and on the
open road. Had the 6-cyl been available I'd have taken it, but the 4 has
been a great compromise. I'm not going to play on the switchbacks with my
kayak or lumber on the roof anyway and I won't win any drag races, but I'm
still one of the 2% fastest cars on the freeway over a distance. I'm
looking at getting a vintage sports car or motorcycle for the "fun" driving.

My next OB will be a 6, if they haven't come up with completely different
motor technology by the time I cover another 200K miles.

 

[Rick Courtright]

I am kind of new to CA. When you say Auburn Subaru, do you mean the
city of Auburn, not the street named Auburn Blvd (in Sacramento),

Sorry, brain fart there... yes, "Auburn Subaru" would be a hike for you,
it's in Auburn, WA, NOT Auburn, CA! (I'm not sure if Auburn, CA has
grown enough to have any car dealers? It's been a few years since I've
been there.) The one I was thinking of is the one you mentioned on
Auburn Blvd, Maita Subaru (http://www.maitasubaru.net/)--I was confusing
the street w/ the town. Hope I didn't totally throw you!

Rick

 

[amanda992004]

Thanks for the clearification. I'll probably use Maita Toyota on
Auburn.

 

[Jim Stewart]

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your friend,


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Something to think about for sure.




I am kind of new to CA. When you say Auburn Subaru, do you mean the
city of Auburn, not the street named Auburn Blvd (in Sacramento),
right?

The thread's kinda confused at this point. I
recommended Auburn Subaru, in the city of Auburn,
Ca. to purchase a new vehicle, because I was not
impressed with Maita or Roseville.

I've also recommended Auburn Subaru in Washington
state for mail order parts.

Hope that clears things up.

 

[YKhan]

No snow here. I will have a garage to keep my car.

Too bad, we get to make full use of the Subaru features up here in
Canada for a good portion of the year. It was the main reason I was
attracted to a Subaru.

The reason I am resuming my interest in Subaru over Camry is that I
really love my friend's Subaru 2.5 GT. I don't know much about cars
in detail but I know that I really like the control he has with his 2.5
GT. I feel so comfortable sitting in front passenger seat; do not feel
motion during turns like poeplw ould feel when I turn (in my front
wheel drive Nissan Sentra or previously owned Honda Civic.

Yes, that's actually not entirely due to the All-Wheel Drive. Part of
the reason for that feeling of stability is due to the engine design.
All Subarus have horizontally-opposed (aka flat) engines. This means
that the engine's cylinders move side to side in the car, rather than
straight up and down in the case of inline engines, or even diagonally
in the case of V-engines. This means that the mass of the engine is
sitting much lower in the car than most other cars. Therefore very
little body roll. Even the extra-tall Subies, like the Outback and
Forrester don't roll very much. Typical SUVs with traditional engines,
with their tall structures tend to roll quite a bit, even to the point
of being tipsy.

Porsche 911 also has this flat engine design, so they would tend to be
very stable feeling too.

Yousuf Khan

 

[amanda992004]

Yes, that's actually not entirely due to the All-Wheel Drive. Part of
the reason for that feeling of stability is due to the engine design.

Thanks for the explanation.

I really hate that rolling feeling; I can't imagine how passengers in
my car, though I hardly have any passengers, feel when I drive.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

Thanks for the explanation.

I really hate that rolling feeling; I can't imagine how passengers in
my car, though I hardly have any passengers, feel when I drive.

You know, that's a typical complaint of people who suffer from motion
sickness. Is motion sickness a problem for you?

Yousuf Khan

 

[amanda992004]

Is motion sickness a problem for you?

Yes, more so when I am the passenger and ESPECIALLY when there is an
elevation change.

So not everyone feels the same way I do about rolling feelings ?