New (2025) push button remote start does not work if car is not locked

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I live way out in the country on a private road far away way from any public traffic--one of the reasons for Subarus. We have never locked our cars. Almost no cell signal, so we opted for the older push button remote vs. cell-phone dependent Remote.
I have a 2019 Touring 3.6R with the same kind of remote. It works fine whether doors are locked or unlocked.
The 2025 Touring XT will remote start ONLY if the doors are locked.
This is a big pain.
Does anyone know of a setting, or after-market solution so I'm not always locking my car in the driveway or garage when the wind chill is -18F?
 
Two presses to start. One long press 2s to stop.
The remote start fob now requires you to use the key fob to lock the car (if you haven't locked it while, for example, unloading groceries) before.
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Ditch that remote. I have it set up on my primary lock/unlock remote. Two quick presses of lock button...then press and hold lock button to start. Not sure how to stop. But that don't solve your problem. Dealer told me to ditch that remote you are using when I bought the car.
 
Just tried it again with the other (Primary?) key fob--It works!
Thanks!
However, it still entails locking the car, which is why I posted.
 
Every remote start vehicle I have ever had required a press of the lock button before hitting the remote start, even if the vehicle is already locked. This seems to be universal, so I am pretty sure yours is functioning properly.
 
My 2019 Outback, does not have to be locked for the remote start fob vs. the remote key fob to perform this function.
On the 2019 remote start fob, you just press it twice and the car starts locked or unlocked.
You are right, it is functioning "as designed", but my reason for posting is that the design has changed since 2019, and I was wondering if there is a setting or after-market modification that can disable or override the new requirement that it must be locked.
Thanks
 
I tried the following which did not work for me on my 2025 Outback TourIng XT:
1. Press lock
2. Press lock
3. Press and hold lock for 2 seconds

Tried increasing the Press and hold for more than 2 seconds, did not work .
 
I tried the following which did not work for me on my 2025 Outback TourIng XT:
1. Press lock
2. Press lock
3. Press and hold lock for 2 seconds

Tried increasing the Press and hold for more than 2 seconds, did not work .
maybe they changed the process??? Did you get a beep after each press one and two? then third press my horn beeps and car starts...2016...same in 2018 xtrek
 
RE: Outbacker with 2025 Outback TourIng XT
Looks like:
1) you don't have a remote start fob AND, additionally, a remote key fob
or
2) if you have both, you're are using the wrong key fob to attempt remote start ( they give you 2 key fobs, but only 1 is enabled for remote start...I have to take my 2025 Outback TourIng XT into service to have the second key fob programmed for remote start. One works, the other does not as delivered.
 
Ditch that remote. I have it set up on my primary lock/unlock remote. Two quick presses of lock button...then press and hold lock button to start. Not sure how to stop. But that don't solve your problem. Dealer told me to ditch that remote you are using when I bought the car.
How did you set that up? I am not using a remote start fob but I do use the MySubaru app to remote start occasionally. Being able to remote start via the fob can be convenient from time to time.
 
Ordered it as an option: "Remote Engine Starter Push Start" with the car. I did not want something that depended on cell phone because of lousy service where I live. Once the receiver part of the the remote start is installed in the car, they enable (program) one of the remote key fobs to also be able to perform remote start.
I believe you can have your dealer's service dept. install it. It's also a one-time purchase, which does not turn into a subscription after a few years.
 
Ordered it as an option: "Remote Engine Starter Push Start" with the car. I did not want something that depended on cell phone because of lousy service where I live. Once the receiver part of the the remote start is installed in the car, they enable (program) one of the remote key fobs to also be able to perform remote start.
I believe you can have your dealer's service dept. install it. It's also a one-time purchase, which does not turn into a subscription after a few years.
Thats what i did
 
Ordered it as an option: "Remote Engine Starter Push Start" with the car. I did not want something that depended on cell phone because of lousy service where I live. Once the receiver part of the the remote start is installed in the car, they enable (program) one of the remote key fobs to also be able to perform remote start.
I believe you can have your dealer's service dept. install it. It's also a one-time purchase, which does not turn into a subscription after a few years.
Got it, thanks!
 
I can't get it to work on my '22 Ascent Touring. My husband's '15 Colorado, '21 Ranger & now his '24 Tacoma all had remote start for free. If Subaru doesn't offer free remote start on their '27 Ascent, I won't be getting another Subaru. I hope they do, because I love mine. It's fully loaded with every feature except free remote start. 😞
 
I'm going to try to clear up a whole bunch of issues throughout the post here:

1. The dedicated remote keyless entry/pushbutton start fob can be used to both start and stop the car remotely if the accessory remote start feature is installed. Note that this is a dealer installed option, NOT standard equipment. It will likely not be installed unless you have had it added by the dealer or specifically ordered it if you custom ordered your car. It can add the remote start feature (albeit at an additional cost) to the lower trim level models or if you do not want to use a MySubaru subscription on the higher trims. There is also a need for vehicle programming to activate the system.

To remote start with the keyless entry/pushbutton fob, press the lock button twice within 2 seconds, then press and hold the lock button for three seconds. The car will sound the horn and the engine will start. To stop the engine press and hold the lock button for 3 seconds and the engine will shut off.

If the remote start option is installed, you will have a dedicated second key fob exclusive to your remote start. Its use is optional, as you can also use the keyless entry fob as above. One caution here, the dedicated remote fob has a much greater range than the keyless entry fob.

2. We are actually dealing with two SEPARATE systems here. The remote start using the MySubaru app is implemented via the vehicle Wi-Fi system and does not require any additional hardware or programming at the dealer level. It does require you to purchase a subscription to use the remote start feature. The subscription does provide a host of other features including a vehicle locator, remote locking and unlocking, monitoring distance, speed, and curfew time for young drivers, he ability to set temperature parameters when remote starting, monitoring of vehicle parameters (fluid levels, tire pressures, etc.), reminders of maintenance intervals, and even allows you to set service appointments.

3. As for the "free" remote start, if you have a pushbutton start, there is no additional hardware needed, just the cellphone app (which is free) and the subscription which is also free on a new car for a period of 6 months as a trial. After that various plans and prices are available.

4. To lock or not to lock. The cellphone app will lock the car when you do a remote start. Upon entering the car, you will need to have your keyless entry/pushbutton start key fob to unlock the shift lever before you can drive. The dealer installed hardware system will require you to lock the car on later models. I think this is meant as an additional safeguard against theft. So far as the earlier models, this feature may have been changed to require locking as well for added security. It is always possible a vehicle firmware update may have been missed that addresses this issue on the older vehicle, but it may have not been an issue back then. So far as having to lock the car with a -18 wind chill, so long as you have your key fob, if you lock when leaving the car, the keyless entry will unlock the door as soon as you touch the handle, it should be just as quick to open as an unlocked door.
 

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