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[Marko]

id like to know the data on airbags hurting more than they help. I work on
an ambulance in the bay area and see wrecks all the time. Bout three months
ago a guy driving an impreza smacked the center divide (concrete) at sixty
to seventy head on. Airbags deployed, he walked away with bruised wrists.
car totaled and burned. personally i think your nutz to disable them. marko

 

[Jim Stewart]

id like to know the data on airbags hurting more than they help. I work on
an ambulance in the bay area and see wrecks all the time. Bout three months
ago a guy driving an impreza smacked the center divide (concrete) at sixty
to seventy head on. Airbags deployed, he walked away with bruised wrists.
car totaled and burned. personally i think your nutz to disable them. marko
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Totally agree. My neighbor had a head-on collision with
both cars doing about 40mph. His graphic description
of the car folding up around him followed by the airbags
going off and saving his life was enough to convince me.
He walked away, btw.

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

Totally agree. My neighbor had a head-on collision with
both cars doing about 40mph. His graphic description
of the car folding up around him followed by the airbags
going off and saving his life was enough to convince me.
He walked away, btw.

FWIW the original airbags deployed with a lot of force as they were designed
for drivers who weren't wearing seatbelts and were known to cause
injuries/death (mostly children). Any vehicle with airbags made since 1997
has the newer revised airbags that don't deploy with as much force. Stats
since airbags mandated 15,000 lives saved but 242 killed.

More info here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=30&article_id=8343

 

[Henry Paul]

A coworker of mine was in an accident about 3 years ago. He reached over to
brace his fiancé in the crash when the air bag went off and hit him on the
left side of his head. The impact of the airbag destroyed his left ear and
inner ear disrupting his equilibrium. It took him 8 months to learn how to
walk again and he only has hearing in the right ear. I don't think either of
them were wearing seatbelts either.

My wife and I survived a rollover accident in a Jeep Grand Cherokee due to
seatbelts. The vehicle rotated on all 3 axes so I don't think I came into
contact with the airbag. I was knocked out so I don't know all the details
and sometime during the accident my glasses came off. I did have powder
burns on my wrists from the airbag.


If you are wearing a seatbelt will you come into contact with the airbag? I
wear glasses and I am concerned about being hit in the face with the airbag.

 

[Byron]

If you are wearing a seatbelt will you come into contact with the airbag? I

wear glasses and I am concerned about being hit in the face with the airbag.

I wear glasses (and my seatbelt) and was in a 60mph frontal offset
crash. The left front of my car (the one before my WRX, which was a '01
VW GTI) hit the back right of a car illegally parked at night without
hazard lights in the high speed lane of an 8 lane highway (Rt 128 near
Boston). I did not see the vehicle I hit and had no warning time. This
was the last night of 2001.

Needless to say, the front airbags deployed. I had no idea what
happened other than I had just hit something very hard. Because it was
nighttime I couldn't see as my car spun 2.5 times. The car was equipped
with side-impact and window curtain airbags as well, but they correctly
did not deploy. If my car had been collected by another as I was
spinning, I believe the side bags would have popped then. I was
extremely lucky as were the vehicles in the other lanes.

End result - I walked away with a scrape the size of a postage stamp on
my face from the airbag and a sore neck for about 2 days. My glasses
were fine - they even stayed on my face - though I did have to adjust
them. The driver of the parked car did receive severe injuries but they
were not life threatening.

I'll never own a car without airbags again. I do wish the WRX had seat
and window side airbags.

I am also no longer doubting the crash worthiness of a properly
engineered small car. For me, that means VW/Audi/Subaru. My VW was
totaled in a financial sense, but it still looked like a car and the
passenger compartment was completely intact. If I had passengers I
believe they would also have been mostly ok. No one rides in my car
without a seatbelt. The front left wheel was torn off and the whole
front left engine compartment (my corner of the car!) was a lot smaller
than it used to be. The early 90s Dodge Spirit I hit was not
recognizable as a car. If there were people in any of the seats other
than the drivers', they would have been killed because of the intrusion
of steel and glass into the passenger compartment. The car almost
folded in half.

- Byron

 

[Henry Paul]

My wife and I walked away also. My wife had a bruise on the top of her foot
and I had lacerations from flying glass I guess.
All but 2 of the windows were crushed or blown out. My jeans and shirt were
torn up.
I was sent to the hospital for X-rays, but all I had were strained muscles
from my head being tossed about and my lap was sore from dangling from the
seatbelt.
I found my glasses and cell phone about 20 feet from the wreck both with
minor scratches, but in good working condition.

 

[Guest]

id like to know the data on airbags hurting more than they help. I work on
an ambulance in the bay area and see wrecks all the time. Bout three months
ago a guy driving an impreza smacked the center divide (concrete) at sixty
to seventy head on. Airbags deployed, he walked away with bruised wrists.
car totaled and burned.

And perhaps if he didn't have an air bag he would have been a bit more
careful about driving head on into concrete barriers?

I would settle for a metal spike in the middle of the steering wheel as
long as everyone else has one.

 

[John A.]

And perhaps if he didn't have an air bag he would have been a bit more

careful about driving head on into concrete barriers?

I would settle for a metal spike in the middle of the steering wheel as
long as everyone else has one.

This is a ridiculous comment and assumes that we all are perfect and never
make mistakes.
The proof that you are fallible and Darwin is right is in your 'metal spike'
statement.
John

 

[Henry Paul]

Agreed. I did not see anywhere how he drove into the barrier on purpose. I
have seen many people here end up head first into the barrier from being cut
off by some crazy person who clips their car in the process.

The barrier is better than the oncoming lane on the other side of it.

 

[Guest]

Agreed. I did not see anywhere how he drove into the barrier on purpose. I
have seen many people here end up head first into the barrier from being cut
off by some crazy person who clips their car in the process.

So would these 'crazy persons' be quite so crazy if they had a spike in the
middle of their steering wheel?

 

[Byron]

So would these 'crazy persons' be quite so crazy if they had a spike in the
middle of their steering wheel?

If they were drunk or high? They probably would use the spike to help
them open a beer.

When that 'crazy person' then clips the car of an innocent and the spike
kills a child, what would you say then?

 

[Henry Paul]

Actually, I don't think it would matter one bit. Psycho drivers here will be
psycho to the grave.