Disable Your DRLs

[bigjim]

Go to lightsout.org and follow directions. I did mine today and look
forward to better fuel economy and longer bulb life. I am also
resisting the nanny state. It feels good!!!!!

 

[Tony Hwang]

Go to lightsout.org and follow directions. I did mine today and look
forward to better fuel economy and longer bulb life. I am also
resisting the nanny state. It feels good!!!!!

Hmm.
And some one runs into you, and hope you feel good!

 

[VanguardLH]

Hmm.
And some one runs into you, and hope you feel good!

Headlights on during the day won't stop drunks or sleeping drivers
from running into you. I'm still driving an old '92 Subie Legacy and
get a choice of when my headlights are on or off (but I do like that
they get turned off when I turn off the ignition switch).

 

[VanguardLH]

bigjim wrote in message

Go to lightsout.org and follow directions. I did mine today and
look
forward to better fuel economy and longer bulb life. I am also
resisting the nanny state. It feels good!!!!!

"First off, as of July, 2005, there are no federal laws in the US that
mandate DRLs on passenger vehicles."

Well, gee, maybe they should update their web site every year, at
least. The laws may not have changed (by having new ones show up that
mandate DRLs) but a statement based back in 2005 is hardly of value
today as to whether or not such laws exist. Makes you wonder what
else is antiquated at this web site.

 

[bigjim]

Mine still turn off with key. I like that. All it took was pulling
the white plug from the DRL module attached to steering column.

 

[Buddy]

here's VanguardLH's last post ->:

bigjim wrote in message



"First off, as of July, 2005, there are no federal laws in the US that
mandate DRLs on passenger vehicles."

Well, gee, maybe they should update their web site every year, at
least. The laws may not have changed (by having new ones show up that
mandate DRLs) but a statement based back in 2005 is hardly of value
today as to whether or not such laws exist. Makes you wonder what else
is antiquated at this web site.

Canadians were the first country that I know of that made
'headlights constantly on' mandatory on all their cars after
proving that they increased that cars visibility to others enough
to make it law.

Here in Maine, we passed a law three years ago making it mandatory
to put your headlights on during the rain.

It will make you more visible to drunks and everyone - albeit they
aren't a substitute for a good 'force field.'

Curious, just what sort of a load drain does having the lights on
have on an alternator so that mileage is reduced?

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[.._..]

Curious, just what sort of a load drain does having the lights on have on
an alternator so that mileage is reduced?

There isn't. It's like .01 % (1/10,000) of gas consumed per mile. i.e. NO
measurable impact on gas milage. That "study" went around and got
completely debunked all over the internet in 1999 or so.

If you care about saving gas, keep your tires inflated, engine and drive
train fluids changed regularly, take the stupid-gay ass "Thule" rack off
your roof when you are not using it, and stop driving like a retarded monkey
in heat and relax a bit. Those things will get you better gas savings than
keeping the lights off will.

Plus, with the lights on, you are less likely to have to pay for a new car
cuz someone didn't see your damn fool ass coming at dusk or in the rain.

 

[Buddy]

here's .._..'s last post ->:

There isn't. It's like .01 % (1/10,000) of gas consumed per mile. i.e. NO
measurable impact on gas milage. That "study" went around and got
completely debunked all over the internet in 1999 or so.

If you care about saving gas, keep your tires inflated, engine and drive
train fluids changed regularly, take the stupid-gay ass "Thule" rack off
your roof when you are not using it, and stop driving like a retarded monkey
in heat and relax a bit. Those things will get you better gas savings than
keeping the lights off will.

Plus, with the lights on, you are less likely to have to pay for a new car
cuz someone didn't see your damn fool ass coming at dusk or in the rain.

I suspected that the savings would be negligible and find lights
on a great idea. I always have them on but especially at dawn &
dusk when driving with the sun behind me so others can see me. But
the 'stupid-gay' Thule rack comment was uncalled for ;-)

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[Dano58]

You know, I have nothing against DRL's (although personally, I prefer
not to have them). But some cars that use the high beams with reduced
power still are bright enough to cause a distraction when they are
behind you, even in broad daylight. Where is the safety in that?

I think most states have a 'wipers-on, lights-on' law these days,
which makes good sense.

If you REALLY are concerned about visibility, then you need to add one
of those strobe lights like some school buses have on their roofs. ;-)

Dan D
'99 Impreza 2.5 RS (son's)
Central NJ USA

 

[bigjim]

I drove for 20+ years in cars without DRL's and the times I got hit
had nothing to do with lighting.

 

[bigjim]

The effect on bulb life is measurable. I NEVER replaced a headlight
(except to upgrade) in my previous 3 vehicles. My Subaru has had
several bulbs burn out to to DRL's. Maybe some of you are too stupid
to turn on lights at dawn dusk or inclement weather but I've figured
that out. How exactly will I pay for a new car if someone hits me?
THEIR insurance will handle that and the award for pain and injury
will allow me to buy a better car. No big deal.

 

[JD]

Go to lightsout.org and follow directions. I did mine today and look
forward to better fuel economy and longer bulb life. I am also
resisting the nanny state. It feels good!!!!!

Better fuel economy!? LOL. The bulbs combined only draw 100 watts. You'd
be better off leaving the A/C and radio off.

 

[Bob Noble]

that out. How exactly will I pay for a new car if someone hits me?

THEIR insurance will handle that and the award for pain and injury
will allow me to buy a better car. No big deal.

OK, you really said this?
We'll have them send the check to your grave, so you can have it.
If you get hit, it might not just be your car?

 

[Guest]

I always have them on but especially at dawn &
dusk when driving with the sun behind me so others can see me.

With a light behind you sticking lights on the front is actually
camouflage.
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[hippo]

With a light behind you sticking lights on the front is actually
camouflage.

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Couldn't agree more! My bike or car lights are on most of the time
*except* when the sun's behind me adn *especially* when it's behind me and
low in the sky. Then I want to be as big a dark blob as possible, not a
little light trying to show up against a bloody big one! Cheers

 

[VanguardLH]

Plus, with the lights on, you are less likely to have to pay for a
new car cuz someone didn't see your damn fool ass coming at dusk or
in the rain.

So do we get to shotgun the car trying to take out those superbright
blue-tint headlights that blind others (so the bozo doesn't blind
others with their lights)?

 

[Buddy]

here's hippo's last post ->:

Couldn't agree more! My bike or car lights are on most of the time
*except* when the sun's behind me adn *especially* when it's behind me and
low in the sky. Then I want to be as big a dark blob as possible, not a
little light trying to show up against a bloody big one! Cheers

I understand about using lights as camouflage, the military
checked it out, but it works at when the object is on the horizon
at some distance. If you want to argue that you are better off not
running lights with the sun behind you (not just a light!) then
you need to pay more attention to the cars coming at you when you
drive into the sun and see whether those with lights are invisible
to you. I'm not 17 and I've made my own observations and disagree
with your's based on personal experience. Cheers!

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[Buddy]

here's VanguardLH's last post ->:

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So do we get to shotgun the car trying to take out those superbright
blue-tint headlights that blind others (so the bozo doesn't blind others
with their lights)?

The problem isn't so much the headlights (except that I agree that
those blue-tint lights are very annoying *when they're coming at
you*), it's the fact that the bozo behind you is driving an SUV or
truck or something with a taller profile, but that's still more of
a problem at night than in the daytime.

BTW, my car doesn't have DRL's, I choose when I turn them on or
off. They work though.
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[Bob Noble]

Hey Buddy,
I agree with you.
All motor cycles should only drive with the lights on most all the time. If
not for yourself, do it for all those in the cars, as they may accidentally
hit you and kill or hurt you and feel real bad about it. They might get hurt
or killed too, so it's just a good idea. Ones family might not be too happy
either if one got hit.
I choose to drive with my cars headlights on all the time and I like the way
the lights go off when I turn off the engine and I don't have to remember to
turn them on when it rains, as that's the law now around here.
Doing things right, one might live long enough to get some experience and
live to a ripe old age, if one doesn't accidently run into one of those
without the lights on. :O)[/QUOTE]
I understand about using lights as camouflage, the military checked it
out, but it works at when the object is on the horizon at some distance.
If you want to argue that you are better off not running lights with the
sun behind you (not just a light!) then you need to pay more attention to
the cars coming at you when you drive into the sun and see whether those
with lights are invisible to you. I'm not 17 and I've made my own
observations and disagree with your's based on personal experience.
Cheers!

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<<XX>:> Buddy

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