Waxing cars

[houndman]

would it benefit or be extra work to wax a car twice? I waxed my car
the other day with Dupont Teflon liquid wax. A few hrs later a guy I
know paste waxed his car, and then pulled out the Dupont stuff and
applied it, and wiped it right off before drying, and said That was
the way to use it. The directions said to let it dry, and he said,
Don't believe Everything you read.)) He said a detail shop said they
do it that way. Now the Old car did shine More after the Teflon, but I
wonder if it would have anyway, without using the paste, or using one
twice, and did he remove the past wax with the teflon wax?

VF

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

would it benefit or be extra work to wax a car twice? I waxed my car
the other day with Dupont Teflon liquid wax. A few hrs later a guy I
know paste waxed his car, and then pulled out the Dupont stuff and
applied it, and wiped it right off before drying, and said That was
the way to use it. The directions said to let it dry, and he said,
Don't believe Everything you read.)) He said a detail shop said they
do it that way. Now the Old car did shine More after the Teflon, but I
wonder if it would have anyway, without using the paste, or using one
twice, and did he remove the past wax with the teflon wax?

VF

There are a lot of different theories and approaches to external
detailing. You can find a lot of obssive type folks putting show
finishes on their cars with detailed instructions on the web.

I use NuFinish. Fairly easy to apply, long lasting, can be applied in
multiple layers for a little additional protection. It is not a wax, its
a zinc-based polymer of some kind. I can apply it in the heat in direct
sun. It does not seem to accumulate/embed dirt like waxes can. Also, it
isn't expensive.

Carl

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

would it benefit or be extra work to wax a car twice? I waxed my car the
other day with Dupont Teflon liquid wax. A few hrs later a guy I know
paste waxed his car, and then pulled out the Dupont stuff and applied it,
and wiped it right off before drying, and said That was the way to use it.
The directions said to let it dry, and he said, Don't believe Everything
you read.)) He said a detail shop said they do it that way. Now the Old
car did shine More after the Teflon, but I wonder if it would have anyway,
without using the paste, or using one twice, and did he remove the past
wax with the teflon wax?

VF

Well, it won't hurt, that's for sure.

As one person said, PTFE should slide off the car as soon as it's applied,
however, there are certain binders in the solution that stick to the
surface of the car, and the PTFE sticks to those.

When I'm feeling ambition, I often wax the car once with a cleaner/wax,
and then go over it with a good (Mequire's) paste Carnauba wax. The
cleaner wax gets rid of any oxidation, and the paste wax gives a great
luster and excellent protection.

My most recent acquistion was an '05 Scion tC, and since I used to work in
a Toyota detail shop, I had a few Simonize kits left over, so the car got
the full exterior Simonize treatment. I also have some Teflon wax, but
haven't applied it yet; I have been going over the Simonize with MORE
Simonize when the car looks like it needs 'waxing'.

There is ONE good thing about paying $375 or more for Simonize: the
'insurance policy' that comes with it. If the paint gets ruined for almost
any reason; bird droppings, tree sap, etc, Simonize will pay the bill to
repair the paint. Other than that, save your money and get a good wax. I
recommend Meguire's. I have been using it since 1987 and have an '85
Corolla GTS that still looks new...

(except where it's rusting...)

 

[David]

would it benefit or be extra work to wax a car twice? I waxed my car
the other day with Dupont Teflon liquid wax. A few hrs later a guy I
know paste waxed his car, and then pulled out the Dupont stuff and
applied it, and wiped it right off before drying, and said That was
the way to use it. The directions said to let it dry, and he said,
Don't believe Everything you read.)) He said a detail shop said they
do it that way. Now the Old car did shine More after the Teflon, but I
wonder if it would have anyway, without using the paste, or using one
twice, and did he remove the past wax with the teflon wax?

VF

PTFE / Teflon
PTFE is the common abbreviation for Teflon. Teflon is a registered
trade mark belonging to Du Pont. Du Pont said some years back that
"Teflon fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of
a car wax". Some claim that it makes the surface of your paint
"slippery". It should be noted that the car care products containing
PTFE only have (usually) less than 10% of PTFE in them. Additionally,
as Teflon/PTFE is nonsticky in all directions, it needs to be baked at
high heat (after first priming the surface) to stick to metal.
Logic will tell you that - unless you're baking it onto your car - the
PTFE will slip off as soon as it hits the paint.

http://www.glareeurope.com/visartikkel.asp?art=238

 

[houndman]

PTFE / Teflon
PTFE is the common abbreviation for Teflon. Teflon is a registered
trade mark belonging to Du Pont. Du Pont said some years back that
"Teflon fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of
a car wax". Some claim that it makes the surface of your paint
"slippery". It should be noted that the car care products containing
PTFE only have (usually) less than 10% of PTFE in them. Additionally,
as Teflon/PTFE is nonsticky in all directions, it needs to be baked at
high heat (after first priming the surface) to stick to metal.
Logic will tell you that - unless you're baking it onto your car - the
PTFE will slip off as soon as it hits the paint.

http://www.glareeurope.com/visartikkel.asp?art=238

Wanting to try to stop or minimize the brake dust buildup on the
wheels, I put the teflon on one side, and a Color wax I had picked up
for an old car with bad paint on it on the other side, to see if one
worked better. Wheels should be a pretty extreme test, and both are
keeping the dust from sticking except for what looks like a clump that
hits them, unless I missed a few spots.

The guy who I was talking to who was waxing his car said, it was a
Waste of time to wax the rims, Nothing would keep the dust from
collecting. Sometimes people Tell You, not to listen to them.))

 

[houndman]

Well, it won't hurt, that's for sure.

As one person said, PTFE should slide off the car as soon as it's applied,
however, there are certain binders in the solution that stick to the
surface of the car, and the PTFE sticks to those.

When I'm feeling ambition, I often wax the car once with a cleaner/wax,
and then go over it with a good (Mequire's) paste Carnauba wax. The
cleaner wax gets rid of any oxidation, and the paste wax gives a great
luster and excellent protection.

My most recent acquistion was an '05 Scion tC, and since I used to work in
a Toyota detail shop, I had a few Simonize kits left over, so the car got
the full exterior Simonize treatment. I also have some Teflon wax, but
haven't applied it yet; I have been going over the Simonize with MORE
Simonize when the car looks like it needs 'waxing'.

There is ONE good thing about paying $375 or more for Simonize: the
'insurance policy' that comes with it. If the paint gets ruined for almost
any reason; bird droppings, tree sap, etc, Simonize will pay the bill to
repair the paint. Other than that, save your money and get a good wax. I
recommend Meguire's. I have been using it since 1987 and have an '85
Corolla GTS that still looks new...

(except where it's rusting...)

There are a lot of new materials and techniques since I last waxed a
car, over 20yrs ago because of an injury, and before clear coats were
applied.

VF

 

[Frank]

PTFE / Teflon
PTFE is the common abbreviation for Teflon. Teflon is a registered
trade mark belonging to Du Pont. Du Pont said some years back that
"Teflon fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of
a car wax". Some claim that it makes the surface of your paint
"slippery". It should be noted that the car care products containing
PTFE only have (usually) less than 10% of PTFE in them. Additionally,
as Teflon/PTFE is nonsticky in all directions, it needs to be baked at
high heat (after first priming the surface) to stick to metal.
Logic will tell you that - unless you're baking it onto your car - the
PTFE will slip off as soon as it hits the paint.

http://www.glareeurope.com/visartikkel.asp?art=238

Teflon finish does not necessarily have PTFE in it. It is most likely a
derivatized fluorocarbon such as used on carpets.