Disable ABS

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Mike G.

If I want to disable the ABS is it necessary to pull both fuses or
only one, i.e. would there be any damage running with just the solenoid fuse
pulled? The other, the ABS Ignition, is a pain to get to.

Thanks,

Mike
 
If I want to disable the ABS is it necessary to pull both
fuses or
only one, i.e. would there be any damage running with just the
solenoid fuse
pulled? The other, the ABS Ignition, is a pain to get to.

Thanks,

Mike

why do you want to disable the ABS? that is a dangerous thing to do.
Even working on the system if you dont know what you are doing could
result in serious harm. If you want a car w/o ABS buy one that dosnt
have it, dont tamper with on that does.
 
xmirage2kx said:
why do you want to disable the ABS?

There are a couple of reason to disable ABS ESP or other evil's systems.
ABS is good on 98% of cases, but on the snow and off-road it's better to
disable it.
Older European cars had the pushbutton to disable ABS, and today's car
have pushbutton to disable ESP and/or TCS.


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S.C. said:
There are a couple of reason to disable ABS ESP or other evil's systems.
ABS is good on 98% of cases, but on the snow and off-road it's better to
disable it.
Older European cars had the pushbutton to disable ABS, and today's car
have pushbutton to disable ESP and/or TCS.

I guess I can believe there are situations where ABS causes a problem,
but I can't see how snow is one of them. I've used ABS in the snow, and
it has helped a lot. It takes the guesswork out of how hard to brake. I
just jam the brake pedal down and wait until I've stopped. That is, if
no one is close behind me.
 
Tom Reingold said:
I guess I can believe there are situations where ABS causes a problem,
but I can't see how snow is one of them. I've used ABS in the snow, and
it has helped a lot. It takes the guesswork out of how hard to brake. I
just jam the brake pedal down and wait until I've stopped. That is, if
no one is close behind me.

And you claim to be a driver?

Al
 
There are a couple of reason to disable ABS ESP or other evil's systems.
ABS is good on 98% of cases, but on the snow and off-road it's better to
disable it.

Hmmm, I live in a snowbelt, and ABS is a lifesaver. This is especially true
whhen we also have ice and dry patches.

-John O
 
Hmmm, I live in a snowbelt, and ABS is a lifesaver. This is especially true
whhen we also have ice and dry patches.

Totally agreed; I have been surprised by how effective my 98.5 A4 ABS
brakes have been in our western New York winters. I disliked my 95
Passat ABS, though; they didn't seem to work right, but the Audi I'm
driving now is totally reliable and predictable.
 
KLS said:
Totally agreed; I have been surprised by how effective my 98.5 A4 ABS
brakes have been in our western New York winters. I disliked my 95
Passat ABS, though; they didn't seem to work right, but the Audi I'm
driving now is totally reliable and predictable.


Could you please describe what your VW did that you didn't like?
 
JohnO said:
Hmmm, I live in a snowbelt, and ABS is a lifesaver. This is especially true
whhen we also have ice and dry patches.

Mmm, I like ABS in the winter, too. I've not tried it myself, but the
situation I've heard that no-ABS is best in is when you're trying to
brake on gravel, where the locked wheels allow a mound of gravel to
build up ahead of the tires, slowing you down.

-- Mark
 
Tom Reingold said:
I guess I can believe there are situations where ABS causes a problem, but
I can't see how snow is one of them. I've used ABS in the snow, and it has
helped a lot. It takes the guesswork out of how hard to brake. I just jam
the brake pedal down and wait until I've stopped. That is, if no one is
close behind me.
Yup. Just like there are situations when a seatbelt can kill you. But only
a fool would advocate removing them.
 
KLS said:
Totally agreed; I have been surprised by how effective my 98.5 A4 ABS
brakes have been in our western New York winters. I disliked my 95
Passat ABS, though; they didn't seem to work right, but the Audi I'm
driving now is totally reliable and predictable.

We own one car with ABS, and one without. I'll take ABS under ANY
conditions hands down. They work better in the wet, the dry, the snow and
yes, on gravel too; and we have ALL of those conditions where I live.
 
We own one car with ABS, and one without. I'll take ABS under ANY
conditions hands down. They work better in the wet, the dry, the snow and
yes, on gravel too; and we have ALL of those conditions where I live.

On deep gravel, ABS makes longer stops, cause you
won't build up the "gravel wedge" effect.
 
Could you please describe what your VW did that you didn't like?

It's been more than 4 years since I last drove that car, but I
remember applying the brakes in a few high speed, wet situations and
feeling NOTHING happen, no slowing, nothing, and then releasing the
brake foot pedal and depressing it again (in a bit of a panic,
admittedly) and only then experiencing actual braking. Very weird,
and the VW/Audi mechanic I bought the car from could never find
anything wrong.
 
Hi Mike, All!

If I want to disable the ABS

This on my '02 WRX; pull the ABS fuse located in the fusebox beneath
the L. side of the dash. ABS warning light illuminates to remind you.
Most who desire this ability will wish to install a switch to
dis/enable the ABS as required.

While the ABS found in my pop's newer Caddy is quite good (at least on
ice; I was _very_ impressed), the ABS as found on my WRX, and also on
my wifes '02 Forester isn't. While it works as advertised on dry
pavement, it performs _very_ poorly on extremely low traction surfaces
(glare ice; KLUNK, slide, KLUNK-KLUNK, slide some more . . . spooky),
and is less than optimum for aggressive driving on dirt or gravel
(i.e. rallycross, or just havin' fun in the woods) where it's
activation dramatically reduces slowing/stopping distances (It feels
like air in the brake lines).

I don't wish to argue the point; if you're happy with the way yours
works, don't mess with it. If you drive on bumpy dirt roads
(especially if you drive aggressively), or on ice (especially in hilly
terrain), try it both ways and see which works better for you; only
takes a second to pull/replace the fuse.

ByeBye! S.
Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101
 
CompUser said:
On deep gravel, ABS makes longer stops, cause you
won't build up the "gravel wedge" effect.

I have never found that. My ABS works just great on gravel, and I can still
steer the car while it is stopping.
 
Have you had your ABS checked?

Mine doesn't work _anything_ like you describe. It sounds like yours is
broken.
 
S said:
While the ABS found in my pop's newer Caddy is quite good (at least on
ice; I was _very_ impressed), the ABS as found on my WRX, and also on
my wifes '02 Forester isn't. While it works as advertised on dry
pavement, it performs _very_ poorly on extremely low traction surfaces
(glare ice; KLUNK, slide, KLUNK-KLUNK, slide some more . . . spooky),
and is less than optimum for aggressive driving on dirt or gravel
(i.e. rallycross, or just havin' fun in the woods) where it's
activation dramatically reduces slowing/stopping distances (It feels
like air in the brake lines).


Maybe you need better tires. After all, tires are critical for good
traction. I use snow tires in the winter, and ABS works better because
ABS, of course, still relies on traction. Ain't no magic without
friction between tire and surface.

I still haven't seen any convincing arguments in favor of disabling ABS.
I gather there are reasons when you are racing, but I don't see any for
driving on public roads, trying to get places.
 

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