WRX info

[Michael Prosek]

Just looking for some info on the WRX. I have a 97 Mitsu Eclipse GS with
120,000 miles and lookng to get something new very soon. Are they good
reliable cars ? Any common problems ? Any years to stay away from ? Are you
happy with the perfomance ?

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

Just looking for some info on the WRX. I have a 97 Mitsu Eclipse GS with
120,000 miles and lookng to get something new very soon. Are they good
reliable cars ? Any common problems ? Any years to stay away from ? Are you
happy with the perfomance ?

LOTS of problems.....keep reading here and you will see posts with links
about it all. From Shitty clutches,to brake problems,to crappy paint, to
soft metal that dings REAL easy.Keep reading.
Subaru WILL NOT back up the car as it is a "race car" hahahaha.

 

[BlueSTi]

Just looking for some info on the WRX. I have a 97 Mitsu Eclipse GS with
120,000 miles and lookng to get something new very soon. Are they good
reliable cars ? Any common problems ? Any years to stay away from ? Are you
happy with the perfomance ?


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I sold my '96 Talon AWD last year. So, I know where you are coming
from. The AWD system on the Subaru is better. The subaru feels
lighter. On the WRX you have about the same amount of turbo lag as on
the DSM. You get a firmer, more stable ride in the Subaru.
I ended up buying the WRX STi in the end. Way more car than I will
every need! I probably would have been just as well off in the WRX.
But, if you drive the WRX and the STi side by side there is a huge
difference in handling and power. I also drove the new EVO and when
every thing was said and done I drove the STi home.
The reason I settled on the STi is because the dealership was only
asking $3000 more for the STi than the STD WRX.
My only complaint is the road noise and stiff ride. But, that is the
price of owning a "true" sports car.




BlueSTi
"Scary-Fast"

 

[Clive]

LOTS of problems.....keep reading here and you will see posts with links
about it all. From Shitty clutches,to brake problems,to crappy paint, to
soft metal that dings REAL easy.Keep reading.
Subaru WILL NOT back up the car as it is a "race car" hahahaha.

Missed your medication again?
C

 

[Ragnar]

LOTS of problems.....keep reading here and you will see posts with links
about it all. From Shitty clutches,to brake problems,to crappy paint, to
soft metal that dings REAL easy.Keep reading.
Subaru WILL NOT back up the car as it is a "race car" hahahaha.

Yeah, like I'm going to believe a guy who calls himself Dr. Rastis
Fafoofnik. Please.

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

Yeah, like I'm going to believe a guy who calls himself Dr. Rastis
Fafoofnik. Please.

DON'T take *my* word for it....READ THE REPORTS. The *REPORTS* say that the
WRX and others have a SHITLOAD of problems, from quality to
breakdowns....it's all in the reports. Yeah I know....they are all lying,
all jealous of your "SOOBIES"...everyone has filed reports that are false
because they have nothing else to do.
WAKE UP!!!! Subaru's are CHEAP,Built CHEAP, are CHEAP quality and designed
with a dollar sign in mind. They are throwaway cars, always will be. Subaru
quality is like early "KIA" right up there with DAEWOO and chasing HYUNDAI
with gusto...
READ THE REPORTS......
chattering clutches
noisy engines
slipping transmissions
poor brakes
chipping paint
door/hood/roof/trunk panels that dent easy
instrument clusters/clocks and other shit that fails
windshields cracking
windows that leak and make noise
A/C units that smell like shit
crapped out engines with less than 100,000 miles on them
the list is endless
DON'T believe me...READ THE REPORTS...........SHIT cars!

 

[Ragnar]

DON'T take *my* word for it....READ THE REPORTS.

What reports? You've posted no links to anything, but have ranted on and on
without presenting one piece of evidence.

Again, why I should believe the words of Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik when he
presents no evidence?

 

[Ignignokt]

DON'T take *my* word for it....READ THE REPORTS. The *REPORTS* say
that the WRX and others have a SHITLOAD of problems, from quality to
breakdowns....it's all in the reports. Yeah I know....they are all
lying, all jealous of your "SOOBIES"...everyone has filed reports
that are false because they have nothing else to do.
WAKE UP!!!! Subaru's are CHEAP,Built CHEAP, are CHEAP quality and
designed with a dollar sign in mind. They are throwaway cars, always
will be. Subaru quality is like early "KIA" right up there with
DAEWOO and chasing HYUNDAI with gusto...
READ THE REPORTS......
chattering clutches
noisy engines
slipping transmissions
poor brakes
chipping paint
door/hood/roof/trunk panels that dent easy
instrument clusters/clocks and other shit that fails
windshields cracking
windows that leak and make noise
A/C units that smell like shit
crapped out engines with less than 100,000 miles on them
the list is endless
DON'T believe me...READ THE REPORTS...........SHIT cars!

.... and yet they're ranked 6th by Consumer Reports. What you have to keep
in mind is this: In a forum such as this one only a tiny fraction of Subaru
owners are represented. And these NG's tend to attract people who've had
problems and are seeking resolutions. Only they and die-hard loyalists [and
techno-nerds like myself who substitute NG's for actual human contact ]
will ever show up here. The vast majority of Subaru owners -- who never
have a serious problem and are perfectly happy with their cars -- will never
be represented here.

And I'm inclined to think that the accusations about American-made Subarus
being less reliable than those made elsewhere can be similarly attributed to
disproportionate representation. Like it or not, the US is the world leader
in Internet participation. When 75% of NG participants are American, you
can expect that 75% of the complaints about Subaru problems are going to
come from America. Just my two cents' worth.

- Greg Reed

 

[FNO]

DON'T take *my* word for it....READ THE REPORTS. The *REPORTS* say that the
WRX and others have a SHITLOAD of problems, from quality to
breakdowns....it's all in the reports. Yeah I know....they are all lying,
all jealous of your "SOOBIES"...everyone has filed reports that are false
because they have nothing else to do.
WAKE UP!!!! Subaru's are CHEAP,Built CHEAP, are CHEAP quality and designed
with a dollar sign in mind. They are throwaway cars, always will be. Subaru
quality is like early "KIA" right up there with DAEWOO and chasing HYUNDAI
with gusto...
READ THE REPORTS......
chattering clutches
noisy engines
slipping transmissions
poor brakes
chipping paint
door/hood/roof/trunk panels that dent easy
instrument clusters/clocks and other shit that fails
windshields cracking
windows that leak and make noise
A/C units that smell like shit
crapped out engines with less than 100,000 miles on them
the list is endless
DON'T believe me...READ THE REPORTS...........SHIT cars!

Funny 'the reports' is a pretty subjective thing. I have seen articles and
reviews that laud Subaru for their outstanding quality. Yet, you don't have
any links to 'the reports'. Any idiot can write a report.

 

[powertrain]

My only complaint is the road noise and stiff ride. But, that is the
price of owning a "true" sports car.

This is what you can do about the noise:
http://www.permaplate.com/index2.htm

I had their soundguard and rustguard done on mine by my dealer. I highly
recommend it.

 

[midnight02wrx]

LOTS of problems.....keep reading here and you will see posts with links
about it all. From Shitty clutches,to brake problems,to crappy paint, to
soft metal that dings REAL easy.Keep reading.
Subaru WILL NOT back up the car as it is a "race car" hahahaha.

Never driven one have you?

 

[NitroTrike]

I dont think ANYONE is going to take YOUR word for it. All you do is bitch
about a car that you probably dont even own. Everyone who has a problem with
their Subaru, any model, is the same problems you will find in ANY other car
forum regardless of manufacturer. People buy a car because of its reputation,
or just because they like it. I know an 80 year old man that has owned nothing
but hondas, and never has problems. But again, he drives 20 miles a week at 25
mph. Get in a turbocharged car thats just plain fun to drive, and its bound to
have its share of problems. I have a 2002 wrx with 75k on it, running 11.2's in
the quarter, and I drive it almost 200 miles over the course of EACH day. Did I
have problems? yes, but NOTHING that I didnt induce. Gee why would the front
wheel bearings blow out? Maybe taking offramps at 95 mph EVERY DAY has
something to do with it. Still running the stock clutch. You act like Subaru is
the only one that has "bad" paint. Im not going to point out all your ignorant
comments, because, quite frankly, your not worth it. But dont tell people who
might ACTUALLY want your advice NOT to buy something based on shit you hear.
Your a moron.

 

[DG]

I own three Subies, a '95 impreza with 185K miles on it, a '99 SUS Limited
edtion with 85K miles on, and a 2005 WRX with 3K miles on it. These are the
best cars I've ever owned (compared to three Hondas, Nissans, a Volvo, and
the crappiest POS car I have ever owned, a '95 Plymouth Voyager AWD
minivan).

The fun factor of the WRX is beyond belief. Go to www.nasioc.com and read
up there. You'll be impressed.

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

I dont think ANYONE is going to take YOUR word for it. All you do is bitch
about a car that you probably dont even own.(I DONT DRIVE A SHITBOX)

Everyone who has a problem with

their Subaru, any model, is the same problems you will find in ANY other car
forum regardless of manufacturer.(DOUBT IT...DONT SEE THAT IN A LOT OF

REAL CARS) People buy a car because of its reputation,

or just because they like it. I know an 80 year old man that has owned nothing
but hondas, and never has problems. But again, he drives 20 miles a week at 25
mph. Get in a turbocharged car thats just plain fun to drive, and its bound to
have its share of problems. I have a 2002 wrx with 75k on it, running 11.2's in
the quarter, and I drive it almost 200 miles over the course of EACH day. Did I
have problems? yes, but NOTHING that I didnt induce. Gee why would the front
wheel bearings blow out? Maybe taking offramps at 95 mph EVERY DAY has
something to do with it. Still running the stock clutch. You act like Subaru is
the only one that has "bad" paint. Im not going to point out all your ignorant
comments,(YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THE TRUTH) because, quite frankly, your not

worth it. But dont tell people who

might ACTUALLY want your advice NOT to buy something based on shit you

hear.(SEEN WAY TOO MUCH OF IT IN PRINT TO IGNORE IT)

Your a moron.

Driving every day at 95Mph on offramps? YOUR the moron! A LOT of you jerks
in these little tincans drive them like your the only one on the road.I CAN
see this on a closed course, but NOT on a public road! Drive like a jerk, we
treat you like a jerk.For my truck...it's only sheetmetal, I couldnt care
less if I destroy it taking out a WRX...I will have another one by the
weekend. One day they will bury you in that little shitbox, they won't even
bother to pry it open with a sawsall and you will deserve it.I Had one of
your little cohorts try that shit on me on a canyon road,I gave him the
choice of a collision or dive into the dirt, looked great in my mirror.When
he tried to pass me on a curve(over a double yellow line) I changed lanes
into him hahahaha.Not much of a fight with a 3/4 ton ford truck.He had the
choice of getting pitted or hit the dirt..I'm still smiling. He didnt
continue to follow me, dont think it ran anymore.I didnt find any of that
"Cheesy" dark blue paint on the old 351 powered beast,guess I won that
confrontation hahahaha.Now thats *MY* kind of race.

 

[FNO]

Everyone who has a problem with
REAL CARS) People buy a car because of its reputation, day.
Did I not
worth it. But dont tell people who
hear.(SEEN WAY TOO MUCH OF IT IN PRINT TO IGNORE IT)
Driving every day at 95Mph on offramps? YOUR the moron! A LOT of you jerks
in these little tincans drive them like your the only one on the road.I CAN
see this on a closed course, but NOT on a public road! Drive like a jerk, we
treat you like a jerk.For my truck...it's only sheetmetal, I couldnt care
less if I destroy it taking out a WRX...I will have another one by the
weekend. One day they will bury you in that little shitbox, they won't even
bother to pry it open with a sawsall and you will deserve it.I Had one of
your little cohorts try that shit on me on a canyon road,I gave him the
choice of a collision or dive into the dirt, looked great in my mirror.When
he tried to pass me on a curve(over a double yellow line) I changed lanes
into him hahahaha.Not much of a fight with a 3/4 ton ford truck.He had the
choice of getting pitted or hit the dirt..I'm still smiling. He didnt
continue to follow me, dont think it ran anymore.I didnt find any of that
"Cheesy" dark blue paint on the old 351 powered beast,guess I won that
confrontation hahahaha.Now thats *MY* kind of race.

My mother always told me to never argue with an idiot. They drag you down
to their level and beat you with experience. And, you aliving proof that
God had an affinity for idiots; He sure produced enough of them. You
shouldn't even have a license, much less an opinion.

 

[Peter Johnston]

God, I love this news group.

There seem to be two types of Subaru owners. The:

A) Pimply
"My-Subaru-has-three-million-miles-on-it-and-I-haven't-once-changed-the-oil"
types; or

B) The "Been-there-done-that-never-again-will-I-buy-a-shitting-subaru".

Actually, there is a grey version in there somewhere, but they are a
minority. Heed the thematic advice of the "B" group.

1. Dump the Subaru.
2. Don't buy another one.
3. Save money on the therapy you are undergoing, or will shortly be
undergoing.

 

[2 Stroke]

Dr Fafoofnik, you are a moron. Welcome to my kill filter. Nothing
but losers in there, but hey, you've proven yourself. Have a nice
day.

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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 05:20:00 GMT, "Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik"

<SNIPPED>

 

[2 Stroke]

There are indeed some common problems with the USDM WRX. The
2002-2003 models suffer from an overly sensitive ABS system which will
occasionally activates ABS on all wheels, even if slippage is only on
one. This doesn't happen often, but when it does, you'll just about
crap your pants if there's anything ahead of you. It can be overcome
with HUGE pedal pressure, but it happens so infrequently on good
pavement that you're usually not ready for it. There's a DOT
investigation into it now, but Subaru was, and still is in official
"denial". Reason is that it's bad logic hard coded into the ABS ECU,
and there's no way to reflash it like the engine ECU. So to fix the
problem (which is well documented on NASIOC and elsewhere), they would
have to replace the ABS modules on every car. The problem is
corrected in the MY04 and later models.

The MY04 has an engine mapping problem that results in fuel cut and
violent engine "bucking" under certain lift-throttle conditions. I
don't have an '04, so that's all I can tell you about that one, except
that it's an engine calibration problem that can be fixed with an ECU
reflash, and the MY02-03's don't do this.

My 03 WRX wagon is an absolute blast to drive, I smile every time I
have to go anywhere, and I drive for the sheer enjoyment of it almost
as much as for transportation.

 

[GW De Lacey]

One day they will bury you in that little shitbox, they won't even
bother to pry it open with a sawsall and you will deserve it.I Had one of
your little cohorts try that shit on me on a canyon road,I gave him the
choice of a collision or dive into the dirt, looked great in my mirror.When
he tried to pass me on a curve(over a double yellow line) I changed lanes
into him hahahaha.Not much of a fight with a 3/4 ton ford truck.He had the
choice of getting pitted or hit the dirt..I'm still smiling. He didnt
continue to follow me, dont think it ran anymore.I didnt find any of that
"Cheesy" dark blue paint on the old 351 powered beast,guess I won that
confrontation hahahaha.Now thats *MY* kind of race.

I sometimes wonder about the real life personalities of this type of
troll. I mean, is he a six foot nine pot bellied redneck with tats? Or
is he a little chap with a small person's inferiority complex?
As I said, some times I wonder about them. Mostly though, I just
ignore them.

 

[Ignignokt]

God, I love this news group.

There seem to be two types of Subaru owners. The:

A) Pimply
"My-Subaru-has-three-million-miles-on-it-and-I-haven't-once-changed-the-oil"
types; or

B) The
"Been-there-done-that-never-again-will-I-buy-a-shitting-subaru".

You left out the "I drive a 3/4-ton Ford pick-em-up truck and like to spend
my time trolling in the Subaru newsgroup" type.

- Greg Reed