Why do people buy a 2010 STi instead of a 2004 Corvette ZO6 or a 2006Base Corvette?

[Sal]

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
top speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
limited top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
to speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
can beat an STI on the Autobahn.

 

[1 Lucky Texan]

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
top speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
limited top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
to speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
can beat an STI on the Autobahn.

troll... do not feed... let die.

 

[S]

Hey Sal!

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
top speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
limited top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
to speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
can beat an STI on the Autobahn.

I've been very impressed with the Corvettes performance both in
Autocross competition, and on the track as well. Were I going to
upgrade from my CSP Miata (think "low budget"), I'd probably look for
a Z06 or similar.

I autocrossed an '02 WRX for a couple seasons, but never got it to
work well for me. And while I never found it on the WRX, my Forry has
a fuel-cut speed limiter that sets in at about 110MPH. I'd be
surprised if the WRX didn't have a similar _feature_, maybe at a
slightly higher speed

That said, try taking that Vette up a mountain pass thru a foot of
fresh snow . . . scary at best, but all in a days work for the AWD
Subaru; ya don't even have to holster your coffee cup.

"Nuff said.

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101

 

[1 Lucky Texan]

Hey Sal!










I've been very impressed with the Corvettes performance both in
Autocross competition, and on the track as well. Were I going to
upgrade from my CSP Miata (think "low budget"), I'd probably look for
a Z06 or similar.

I autocrossed an '02 WRX for a couple seasons, but never got it to
work well for me. And while I never found it on the WRX, my Forry has
a fuel-cut speed limiter that sets in at about 110MPH. I'd be
surprised if the WRX didn't have a similar _feature_, maybe at a
slightly higher speed

That said, try taking that Vette up a mountain pass thru a foot of
fresh snow . . . scary at best, but all in a days work for the AWD
Subaru; ya don't even have to holster your coffee cup.

"Nuff said.

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101

Keep the Miata! The guy that holds the track record where I took my
WRX wagon a coupla times drives a 134hp Miata.

Dunno why anyone would 'hate' a 'Vette. Just too $$$ for me.

 

[weelliott]

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
top speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
limited top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
to speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
can beat an STI on the Autobahn.

I think the answer to the original question is utility, longevity, and
the lack of time that one actually gets to drive as fast as they want.
That is why someone would buy a slower STi rather than a vette. Lets
see the charger on an autocross course versus an STi. David and
Goliath... Actually more of Olympic sprinter versus front tackle.

 

[Sheldon]

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
top speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
limited top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
to speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
can beat an STI on the Autobahn.

Back seat?

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base corvette
before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited top
speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag limited
top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited to
speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000 can
beat an STI on the Autobahn.

Would you want to be seen in a Cobalt?

(Actually, I almost bought one. The dealer had a Loss Leader, the HiPo
engine, 5-speed, etc for ~$13000, but I just couldn't bring myself to
drive a CHEVY and wound up with a Scion tC. However, if it came between a
WRX and a Corvette...)

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

And while I never found it on the WRX, my Forry has a
fuel-cut speed limiter that sets in at about 110MPH.

That's a Japanese requirement. All cars in Japan, even the Skyline GTR are
limited to 180 KMH, or ~111 MPH.

So you can GET there as fast as you want, but no faster...

 

[weelliott]

Would you want to be seen in a Cobalt?

(Actually, I almost bought one. The dealer had a Loss Leader, the HiPo
engine, 5-speed, etc for ~$13000, but I just couldn't bring myself to
drive a CHEVY and wound up with a Scion tC. However, if it came between a
WRX and a Corvette...)- Hide quoted text -

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I haven't owned a GM product for about 15 years. However, as a mamber
of SCCA, I was recruited to work the Chevy Rev-it-up event back in 05
when the cobalt SS non-supercharged first came out. Basically they let
people autocross them for 35 bucks in a national competition. I have
to admit that I was impressed with the handling of that car. I have
never believed in front drivers possibly having good dynamics, but it
did. I'm not a chevy fan, but I have to admit that if I could have
gotten a brand new supercharged one, or even the newer turbocharged
one for 13k, I'd have jumped at it.

I'm not a prestige kind of guy. I don't care what other people think
about what I drive. As evidence, I drive a baseline stock 12 year old
legacy with hubcaps. No glamour. But the performance that that car
offers really is class leading. It beat the GTI, Civic si, and
MazdaSpeed 3 in a comparison test. It was the attitude that it just
wasn't cool or probably wouldn't be reliable that killed its sales.
Kind of a shame.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

I'm not a prestige kind of guy. I don't care what other people think
about what I drive. As evidence, I drive a baseline stock 12 year old
legacy with hubcaps. No glamour. But the performance that that car
offers really is class leading. It beat the GTI, Civic si, and
MazdaSpeed 3 in a comparison test. It was the attitude that it just
wasn't cool or probably wouldn't be reliable that killed its sales.
Kind of a shame.

The sense of shame in owning an American car ironically seems to be an
uniquely American psychosis. Canadians have no such problems. Besides my
Subaru, my other car is a Pontiac Grand Prix. American cars are easy to
find parts for relatively cheaply. No car in existence is ever going to
go without a part change somewhere along the way.

And I would think the recent Toyota problems have well and truly put to
the grave all pretensions about Japanese car's perceived superior quality.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

The sense of shame in owning an American car ironically seems to be an
uniquely American psychosis. Canadians have no such problems. Besides my
Subaru, my other car is a Pontiac Grand Prix. American cars are easy to
find parts for relatively cheaply. No car in existence is ever going to go
without a part change somewhere along the way.

And I would think the recent Toyota problems have well and truly put to
the grave all pretensions about Japanese car's perceived superior quality.

Yousuf Khan

You can bet that in three years or less, Toyota will be the car to own,
and they will probably be lower in price than others.

The Toyoda family is not going to let this go by the boards. One thing the
Japanese do that caucasians don't is "save face", and Toyota has a LOT of
face saving to do!

Within three years, they will be the best cars on Earth.

And considering a couple hiccups from Honda, don't expect them to be too
far behind...

 

[Yousuf Khan]

You can bet that in three years or less, Toyota will be the car to own,
and they will probably be lower in price than others.

The Toyoda family is not going to let this go by the boards. One thing the
Japanese do that caucasians don't is "save face", and Toyota has a LOT of
face saving to do!

Within three years, they will be the best cars on Earth.

And considering a couple hiccups from Honda, don't expect them to be too
far behind...

Maybe, maybe not, the stories you heard about Toyota's problems seemed
astonishingly similar to stories you normally hear about American car
companies, namely compromising quality to save on costs. That's a drug
that car companies have a lot of trouble detoxing from. Once you start
buying the part that's 5% lower cost, which adds 10% to your profit
margin, you'll keep taking that drug.

Face saving is for a Japan of the 19th century.

Yousuf Khan

 

[S]

Hi Guys!

The sense of shame in owning an American car ironically seems to be an
uniquely American psychosis. Canadians have no such problems. Besides my
Subaru, my other car is a Pontiac Grand Prix. American cars are easy to
find parts for relatively cheaply. No car in existence is ever going to
go without a part change somewhere along the way.

And I would think the recent Toyota problems have well and truly put to
the grave all pretensions about Japanese car's perceived superior quality.

Yousuf Khan

I've owned a bunch of Toyotas over the years (Corollas, MR2s,
4Runners, T100), and other than the fact that they are a pain in the
a__ to work on ('specially that 1st gen MR2; my gawd!), they've all
been reliable solid vehicles.
I recently unloaded an '02 Caddy my pop gave me a couple years back.
I'll have to admit that it was a really nice car. Really, really nice,
and it got good gas milage, too (24 - 25 MPG!), but I haven't heard
good things about the long-term reliability of the Caddy's. Figured
I'd sell it while everything was still working ;-)
ByeBye! S.
Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101

 

[kickstart]

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI

Because I don't want a Sexualliy Transmitted Infection