TRIbeca Ugly and a Poor Design

Discussion in 'Subaru Tribeca' started by jabario, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. jabario

    jabario Guest

    Subaru: You need to rethink your priorities and marketing. This
    tribeca thing is ugly and impractical. No flat cargo area. Easy to
    damage leather seats. Too much like a morono by nissan.
    Stick with rugged cars that last and sell for a fair price. The
    outback saved you subaru. the tribeca and ilk will kill you!!!
    I'm concerned for real now. I bought a 2004 OBW and love it. In 1 year
    I have 40k miles.I will get a few more good years but when I need a new
    car subaru will be off the list I hope Jeep still makes the unlimited.
    I will not buy a subaru with an integrated stereo or bland jap metoo
    styling!!!!
     
    jabario, Feb 20, 2005
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    Nicolaas Guest

    And don't forget EXPENSIVE! Plans to price this suv in the mid 30's. I can
    think of a lot of vehicles that I would buy before I spent 35,000 on a
    Subie.
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 22, 2005
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  3. And don't forget EXPENSIVE! Plans to price this suv in the mid 30's. I can
    Nicolas,
    What are some of the '... a lot of vehicles...' you would buy before a
    Subaru @ $35k? What would the advantages of those vehicles be over a Subaru?
    Is Subaru lacking in some area... perhaps quality? technology? innovation?
    engineering? design? etc? Just curious.
    Regards,
    John
     
    John A. Mason, Feb 23, 2005
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    lkreh Guest

    lkreh, Feb 23, 2005
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  5. jabario

    jabario Guest

    I can think of many in the $35 k range I'd buy before a subaru. Any
    BMW, A Toyota, Even a vette is in the low 40's. The outback saved
    Subaru and now theyve forgotten what works. Subie stock stereos suck
    and are not worthy of a 25k + vehicle.
     
    jabario, Feb 23, 2005
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  6. None of the vehicles you mention can compare with a Subaru for advanced
    technology or engineering. Name appeal, sure. Quality, maybe especially with
    the Toyota, but certainly not with the 'Vette. And BMW's at that price range
    are *way* overrated and under-quality.
    As far as the stereo, I don't like being locked into a factory stereo
    either. I don't think this is a trend that is exclusive to Subaru. However,
    in my '02 VDC Sedan, I got the premium McIntosh sound system, and it is
    quite good. If the stereo is the make-or-break item for you, then so be it.
    I'd rather have the advanced engine, drivetrain, and best AWD system on the
    road, bar none.
    Regards,
    John
     
    John A. Mason, Feb 24, 2005
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    Rob Munach Guest

    I own a Forester and used to own a BRAT, but I have to agree with the
    troll, the Tribeca is ugly and I doubt it will sell well. I think Subaru
    is getting too far away from their roots.
     
    Rob Munach, Feb 24, 2005
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  9. jabario

    jabario Guest

    I love the AWD system but I wouldnt call the engine "advanced" . Oil
    seal issues, mediocer mileage, and difficulty in performing basic
    service (spark plugs) are among the issues. Hey, I love my OBW and
    wouldnt hesitate to buy another if Subaru goes back to what made it
    special to begin with-- rugged unique appearance, practical interior,
    reasonable price plus the AWD and ABS etc. However in 3 or 4 years
    when I need a new vehicle, I wont consider Subaru if all their models
    are like the tribeca and are pricey. I'd rather buy an American made
    vehicle and a good extended warranty and will save a lot of money. The
    stereo is not a big deal--If I can change it. The stereo in my 04 OBW
    pretty much sucked. With a new Kenwood unit and pioneer speakers I
    cant complain. I hope I can get 200k mile or more. Subaru needs to
    realize that its core audience of teachers, hippies, postmen etc will
    not spend $35k when there are a LOT of alternatives.
     
    jabario, Feb 24, 2005
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    Bart Guest

    I think the biggest thing I don't like is the "snout."

    If the grill didn't look so snout-like, I think the Tribeca might be ok
    looking :)
     
    Bart, Feb 24, 2005
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    Nicolaas Guest

    Right off the bat...Honda Pilot, Toyota Forerunner, Isuzu Axiom, Mitsubishi
    Endevour, Mercury Mountaineer, Acura TL, well any Acura, Chrysler Crossfire,
    BMW X3, Mercedes C240, Jeep Liberty Sport are some of the vehicles that I
    would choose before a Tribeca.
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 25, 2005
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    Nicolaas Guest

    SO SO WRONG. I wouldn't pay $30,000 for any vehicle. I was saying
    (hypothetically) there are a lot of vehicles that I would buy before a
    dished out $30,000+ for a Tribeca.
    Lighten up!
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 25, 2005
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    Nicolaas Guest

    You guys can call me a troll if that makes you happy.
    I own a 2005 OBW 2.5i. I came to this discussion group to discuss Subies,
    both positive and negative aspects of Subaru.
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 25, 2005
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    Nicolaas Guest

    I agree about the stereo. The standard Subie stereo sucks.
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 25, 2005
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  15. Nicholas,
    With all of those vehicles that you prefer over Subaru, why don't you get
    one? What's the point? You won't find the features that make Subaru great in
    any of those vehicles. A Crossfire? Come on! I love the car, but it's a
    piece of trash compared to the Subaru. Acura? What does Acura have that's as
    good as Subaru's AWD/VDC? And none of those vehicles have a boxer engine...
    the only inherently vibration free design available commercially. It does
    seem as if you are trolling for some kind of reaction, given that you like
    so many other vehicles over Subaru. I don't know if you are making a
    distinction between Subaru's and the Tribeca however. My '02 VDC Sedan
    listed for $32,000. It's just about the most expensive Subaru you could get.
    There's no way I could get all/any of the Subaru advantages in any other car
    in it's price range.
    John
     
    John A. Mason, Feb 25, 2005
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  16. jabario

    jabario Guest

    The Axiom gives the same features as the Subaru and any Isuzu built in
    Japan is bulletproof!!!. If my OBW were stolen/totaled soon, I'd buy
    the Jeep unlimited before I got a "redesigned" Outback. I might get a
    Baja if the 05 prices dropped as low as the 03's did (18000). I too
    would buy a 4runner for 30k+ brfore I bought a tribeca or new model
    subaru. I dont nor will ever consider Subaru a "luxury" or premium
    brand (I still remember the 70's with the spare under the hood) .
    Subarus appeal to individuals not the me-too crowd. This redesign
    attempted to make the outback a luxury car but it isnt. Subaru has
    always had a great deal of brand loyalty but that is eroding. WAke up
    Subaru!! Give people what they need not what you think or they think
    they want
     
    jabario, Feb 25, 2005
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    Generic Guest

    Yeah, I can't stand that part or the pointed "nose" on Mitsubishis. The
    Tribeca looks squished (accordion) from the rear, but it's tolerable and
    growing on me.

    -John
     
    Generic, Feb 25, 2005
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  18. John A. Mason wrote:
    And none of those vehicles have a boxer engine...
    While I like my Impreza, *and* it's boxer engine, quite a lot, there's
    no way that engine is as smooth as any competently designed straight 6,
    which is a design that has inherent perfect balance. (In fact, the Subie
    engine isn't as smooth as many good straight 4's, despite it's inherent
    design advantage. Maybe the other makers know more about vibration
    isolation?)

    I like the "grumble" of the Subie engine, but I'd never call it
    especially smooth!

    Larry Van Wormer
     
    Larry Van Wormer, Feb 25, 2005
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    Rob Munach Guest

    Actaully, the I6 in the BMW is inherently smoother than a boxer.

    It does
     
    Rob Munach, Feb 25, 2005
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    Nicolaas Guest

    "With all of those vehicles that you prefer over Subaru, why don't you get
    one?"

    Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it?
    I was discussing a $30,000+ vehicle. I would never pay that much for a Subie
    (or any vehicle). I was saying that there are a lot of other vehicles that I
    would choose before I would consider a Tribeca. (a hypothetical statement)
    I paid $22,800 for my 05 OBW, and quite frankly, I don't think that I got my
    money's worth.
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 25, 2005
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