The car that parks itself

In alt.autos.subaru Yousuf Khan said:
So what do people think about this thing? First step towards a self-driving
car, maybe? Or just a gadget? I wonder if it can park in between yellow
parking lot lines better than I can (not difficult)? :)

Do we really want to make it even easier for people too stupid to drive
a car to get behind the wheel where they can kill the rest of us?

If anything, that learning curve isn't steep ENOUGH.

-DanD
 
'If you make everything foolproof, you will soon have a world full of
only fools'.


Carl
1 Lucky Texan
 
Yousuf said:
So what do people think about this thing? First step towards a self-driving
car, maybe? Or just a gadget? I wonder if it can park in between yellow
parking lot lines better than I can (not difficult)? :)

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=116&art_id=vn20030902024749252C846039&set_id=4

Yousuf Khan

Yeah - I heard something on the radio about that the other day - was
that Paul Harvey? Can't remember.

Man - can you imagine what a repair bill on that system will be when it
breaks down, or when you go to sell the vehicle how much the value of
the vehicle will be dragged down if it broke and you didn't fix it?

Technology's wonderful and all that (I am an engineer), but I think we
are beyond the point of diminishing returns on some of this stuff.

Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
 
That car is so freak'n small that if you cant park that yourself, not
only should you have your license taken away. You should also be shot so
we know you will never be able to get behind the wheel of a car.
 
I suppose the good side of this increased 'intelligence' in cars is that
, in the near future, I can just upload a list of beer,
pretzels,chocolate,etc. and send it to the store by itself!

Then in a couple years after that it can go to work for me!


Carl
1 Lucky Texan
 
I can see the lawyers and insurance companies lining up already.
Let's say the car that parks itself hits another vehicle or even a person.
Who's to blame?? Wasn't me....I wasn't driving....the car did it..I was
merely a passenger.
Oh boy.

I have to agree that if you cannot park your own car, you shouldn't drive
your own car.
Jay S
 
Bill Putney said:
Well, I don't know. Right now, if my computer crashes, there's no harm
to me. With a computer driven car, if the computer crashes (literally),
I could die.

All the more reason to avoid putting anything with the word Microsoft,
anywhere near a car. :)

Yousuf Khan
 
Jay S said:
I can see the lawyers and insurance companies lining up already.
Let's say the car that parks itself hits another vehicle or even a person.
Who's to blame?? Wasn't me....I wasn't driving....the car did it..I was
merely a passenger.
Oh boy.

I have to agree that if you cannot park your own car, you shouldn't drive
your own car.
Jay S

I'm sure people used to say, "if you can't shift your own gears, you
shouldn't drive". Well, actually they still say that.

And prior to that, "if you can't adjust the choke to the ambient temperature
conditions, you shouldn't drive". And perhaps before that, they must've been
saying, "if you can't handcrank your own engine up, you shouldn't drive".
And so on. :)

Yousuf Khan
 
Dan said:
In alt.autos.subaru Yousuf Khan <(e-mail address removed)> wrote:
Do we really want to make it even easier for people too stupid to drive
a car to get behind the wheel where they can kill the rest of us?

In case you haven't noticed, there are LAREADY people too stupid to
drive out ont he roads today, with licenses in hands. And my beloved
Pontiac's been dented way too many times by morons who don't know how to
parallel park (and naturally, none have left notes fessing up).

Personally, I'd love to see these idiots not drive. But since that's
not going to happen, I'd rather there be a car that can do a better job
of parking itself than the owner can. At least maybe then I won't find
new dings on my car every damn week.
 
In case you haven't noticed, there are LAREADY people too stupid to
drive out ont he roads today, with licenses in hands. And my beloved
Pontiac's been dented way too many times by morons who don't know how to
parallel park (and naturally, none have left notes fessing up).

Um, not only did I notice but I even said so.

You stripped this line out of my original message:
"If anything, that learning curve isn't steep ENOUGH."
Personally, I'd love to see these idiots not drive. But since that's
not going to happen, I'd rather there be a car that can do a better job
of parking itself than the owner can. At least maybe then I won't find
new dings on my car every damn week.

It only parallel parks. It doesn't slot park. Do you get
dings from people parallel parking near you or from parking
next to you and hitting you with the doors? Mine are mostly
the latter, although I do have one big scratch on my front bumper,
probably from a rear-mounted spare tire or hitch or bike rack or something.

Parking is a fairly small worry to me beause when people do it badly it
doesn't result in nearly as many deaths as collisions at higher speeds.
The part that scares me is that killing someone with a car is
rarely a very serious offense if the person wasn't drinking. It's
a misdemeanor in many places! If these people can't maneuver a
car at low speed surrounded by stationary objects, I shudder to
think how they manage on the road.

-DanD
 
Yousuf Khan said:
All the more reason to avoid putting anything with the word Microsoft,
anywhere near a car. :)

Yousuf Khan

Awww now c'mon, don't take that attitude - at least if its just software to
control parking its not running all the time, and it won't have third party
software riddled with memory holes either... so chances are just like my
Win98 install it'd be brick outhouse solid.


Nick.
 
Nick Trounson said:
Awww now c'mon, don't take that attitude - at least if its just software to
control parking its not running all the time, and it won't have third party
software riddled with memory holes either... so chances are just like my
Win98 install it'd be brick outhouse solid.


Nick.

Yeah, well, if I had a car that was as reliable as Win98, I'd dig a hole in
the ground and bury it :)
Tonyrama
 
tonyrama said:
Yeah, well, if I had a car that was as reliable as Win98, I'd dig a hole in
the ground and bury it :)
Tonyrama

Why does everyone else have reliability issues with 98? Mine has always been
good to me!


Nick.
 
Why does everyone else have reliability issues with 98? Mine has always been
good to me!

Don't get me started on Win98! ... and definately not WinME. Thats about 10
zillion times worse than 98!

WinXP is sure one hell of a mess!

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-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
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-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
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_________________________________________________________________
 
I still don't get it!
I really don't!

Win95 retail (über buggy!) with no prollems.
Win95 OSR2.5 no prollems (except with experimental USB support)
Win98 no prollems.
Win98SE no prollems.
WinME slight network card issue, diagnosis bad drivers.
WinXP no prollems.

Maybe Geoff's right - something's wrong here. Why do I not encounter issues?


Nick.
Just wants to be normal.
 
I still don't get it!
I really don't!

Win95 retail (über buggy!) with no prollems.
Win95 OSR2.5 no prollems (except with experimental USB support)
Win98 no prollems.
Win98SE no prollems.
WinME slight network card issue, diagnosis bad drivers.
WinXP no prollems.

Maybe Geoff's right - something's wrong here. Why do I not encounter issues?


Nick.
Just wants to be normal.

You failed to mention the only OS thats worth a damn from Microsoft.
Win2kPro is the only way to go.

I'm thinking of starting my own OS system called Doors XP. My software
company will be called Bighard. The operating system will do something
entirely new, such as not crash. What you guys think?
 
Nick said:
I still don't get it!
I really don't!

Win95 retail (über buggy!) with no prollems.
Win95 OSR2.5 no prollems (except with experimental USB support)
Win98 no prollems.
Win98SE no prollems.
WinME slight network card issue, diagnosis bad drivers.
WinXP no prollems.

Maybe Geoff's right - something's wrong here. Why do I not encounter issues?


Nick.
Just wants to be normal.

Combo of being lucky and the additional software.
I'm a computer tech, and 90% of the same people who had
problems with windows 3.1 crashing had problems with
win95 crashing and now find ways to blue screen 2000/XP.
XP/2000 is better than 9x which is better than 3.1 but
a lot of it does come down to the user.
Car analogy - haven't you noticed that some people
just seem to have more car problems than others - no
matter what kind of car it is?
 

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