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<http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/09/21/jdpowers_apeal/index.html>
At least they beat out Saturn & Suzuki.
At least they beat out Saturn & Suzuki.
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Bugalugs
B said:
Interesting that it is an American survey taken in the 'Land of the
Automobile' but look at the country of origin of the winners ! ! !
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lkreh
I read that, too. However, the following excert was enough to
discredit the entire story and ranking system as far as I'm concerned:
"The Kia Amanti was the top-ranked "Premium midsize car" in the survey
and the Kia Sportage was the top-ranked "Entry SUV." (The discontinued
Pontiac Aztek placed third, after the Nissan Xterra, in the "Entry SUV"
category.)"
discredit the entire story and ranking system as far as I'm concerned:
"The Kia Amanti was the top-ranked "Premium midsize car" in the survey
and the Kia Sportage was the top-ranked "Entry SUV." (The discontinued
Pontiac Aztek placed third, after the Nissan Xterra, in the "Entry SUV"
category.)"
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Freedom55
Another BS survey. Murano a mid size SUV?????B said:
--
And it really doesn't matter if
I'm wrong I'm right
Where I belong I'm right
Where I belong.
Lennon & McCartney
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Dan
B said:
I am guessing that WRX owners might be skewing Subaru's satisfaction
numbers.
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Freedom55 said:
What would you call it?
Here's what the industry calls "Midsize SUV's":
<http://www.edmunds.com/new/type/suv...x=T&tid=edmunds.n.typeindex.content.num2.1.*>
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Dan said:
The odd thing about that survey is that several cars with fanatical
followings came out on top. These include the Mini Cooper and Honda
Ridgeline. The Honda Ridgeline has sold only 22,000 units.
The WRX owners I know would skew Subie _UP_. I'm surprised Jeep
Wrangler owners didn't cause the same effect. <G>
My own experience with my 2001 OBW, was that I was thrilled with it for
about a year or two. I slowly fell out of love for the car as
unresolved clutch issues, undersized brakes (especially when towing
within Subies recommendations), and poor headlights slowly annoyed me
into selling it. I still own my POS 1999 Wrangler, because as I've
slowly eliminated Chrysler parts, the vehicle has actually become
reliable, but's still appealing.
Happily, my Subie retained a really nice resale value.
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ceraboy
lkreh said:
Read before you stumble to conclusions. This is an owners overall
satisfacgtion survey. This means that if a person is in love with
their vehicle they overlook a myriad of things. Land Rovers are
plagued with QC issues and yet they ranked 2nd as overall satisfaction.
If you can readily afford a porshe, covette, land rover, or the like
youre probably not as concerned with quality, just take it to the shop.
The Kia's are cheap and people feel like they got a good deal and
hence overlook a few quality issues. Hey I think Subaru's quality over
the years has dropped, but that doesnt phase me a bit, Ive gotta drive
a subie, I dont care what it is.
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Dan
B said:
I read something recently that the WRX had the most complaints of any
car. Maybe the link was posted here?
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan
That doesn't seem to be reflected in too many sources I'm familiar with.Dan said:
Though, one has to wonder, how do you seperate the 'daddy's little 17
year old STi driver' that does 6K clutch drops on saturday night or runs
NOS, then whines about broken trannys and holes in pistons vs. some 50
year old guy that wants a sporty daily driver but never races.
Carl
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lkreh
What kind of owners are being surveyed here? Certainly not car
enthusiasts. That's my point. Any survey of ownership satisfaction
that results in Kias and the Aztec coming out on top in their
respective categories is meaningless survey as far as I'm concerned.
enthusiasts. That's my point. Any survey of ownership satisfaction
that results in Kias and the Aztec coming out on top in their
respective categories is meaningless survey as far as I'm concerned.
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Dan
Carl said:
I have no doubt that the people complaining about the WRX are abusing
their cars. I was simply trying to put the original data point in
perspective.
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CompUser
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, (e-mail address removed)
says...
Keep your eye on Kia and Hyundai.
You'll be surprised.
says...
Keep your eye on Kia and Hyundai.
You'll be surprised.
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CompUser said:
Once upon a time, weren't the same things said about Toyota, Honda, and
of course Subaru?
Look what happened there. <G>
The Koreans are getting their automotive act together.
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CompUser
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
(e-mail address removed)
says...
Yup. Revenge is a powerful motivator.
(e-mail address removed)
says...
Yup. Revenge is a powerful motivator.
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lkreh
I'll give you that. Still, Kia and Hyundai aren't there yet. The
Aztec never will be.
Aztec never will be.
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Mark Carroll
Of course, for that survey, the people rating Kia and Hyundai were the
sort of people who would buy a Kia or Hyundai.
-- Mark
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CompUser
They actually a lot further along than most of us
would suspect.
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Dave - Dave.net.nz
heh, kinda like the Saab(aru) 9-2x and 9-3
Impreza and Legacy for those not willing to google.
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Rick Courtright
lkreh said:
Hi,
Didn't GM drop the Aztek? At least as a Pontiac--the Buick Rendezvous
sure looks like they rounded the corners and rebadged it, no?
Rick