Size for winter tires

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Spyros and Christine Triantos, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. This will be my first winter here in the Northeast of the US driving a
    Subaru OBW. The car came with all season tires that are 225/60R16. I have
    been looking at winter tire options for this car on and they
    recommend the same size. The car manual, however, recommends 215/60R16. The
    choice of tires at that size is much more limited. I contacted
    and they replied indicating that 225 would be fine.
    Any experience from Subaru owners using 225/60R16 winter tires would be
    greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance, ST.
    Spyros and Christine Triantos, Sep 30, 2003
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    Edward Hayes Guest

    More important that all four be the same size, manufacture and model. ed
    Edward Hayes, Sep 30, 2003
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  3. I've got 225/60R16 Michelin Artic Alpins (snows) on my 2000 OBW. They
    come pretty close to the "mud flaps" behind the front tires at
    full-lock, but don't actually rub. They do tend to pack the snow up
    in the wheel-wells, but all tires do that to some extent.

    I live on Michigan's Keweenaw Peninsula (200-300" inches of snow a
    year) -- The Alpin has proven to be an excellent winter tire,
    especially on hard-packed snow and ice. You'll get lots of folks
    recommending going to a much narrower tire for winter use (to "cut"
    through the snow). This may be a valid argument in really deep snow
    (over several inches), but on hard-pack and ice (where probably 90% of
    my winter driving is done) I want as much bloomin' sticky rubber
    hitting the ground that I can get... Note that most snow tires
    (including the Alpins) are only "Q" speed rated rather that the OEM
    tire's "H" rating. So, try to stay under 99 MPH on the snow...

    You'll probably find that any of the true "snow" tires don't handle
    quite as well as the stiffer summer tires with a higher speed rating.
    The Alpins were pretty "twitchy" when new, but seem to have
    settled-down after the first winter. They also tend to "sing" a bit
    on wet pavement -- not really objectionable.

    This will be my 4th winter on the Alpins and they are probably less
    than half worn. My only complaint is that they are getting very
    noisy. Wheel alignment has been checked several times and is right on
    the money, so I'm not sure what's up with the Michelins. I'd
    seriously consider Nokians or perhaps Bridgestone Blizzaks next time
    around (although the Blizzaks tend to really wear quickly on bare
    pavement and they salt the highways like crazy up here).

    If it snows where you live, get a set of winter tires for your OBW.
    You'll be amazed by the difference it makes.

    Robert Baratono, Sep 30, 2003
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    ed Guest

    Michelin Artic Alpins are good on hard pack and ice, but poor on slush and
    loose snow, since they have a very closed tread.
    ed, Sep 30, 2003
  5. The owner's manual says to go with 215's because
    of clearance issues with 225's. A lot of 215's are closer
    to 225's because of a full snow tire's "chunkiness."
    215's are slightly narrower, which would be an advantage
    when cutting through deeper snow. 205-65's in a full
    snow would probably be great, but would probably leave
    much to be desired in dry handling.
    Skweezieweezie, Sep 30, 2003
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    Tony Hwang Guest

    Blizzaks are much softer than Alpin. I am on Alpin too but next time I
    am going to get a set of Nokia.
    Tony Hwang, Sep 30, 2003
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