Those Justys use 3 cylinder engines don't they? Do you think somethingHomer said:Hello All,
I am sad to announce that my 1988 Justy's engine died after just 200,406
miles.
I have ordered a rebuilt engine from ATK and am looking forward to a second
childhood for the poor little car.
Yes it has an 1189 CC 3 cylinder engine.Hallraker said:Those Justys use 3 cylinder engines don't they? Do you think something
like, say an EJ22 would fit?
From what I've seen, those cars would fly with even an non turbo EJ22.
-Matt
Homer said:Yes it has an 1189 CC 3 cylinder engine.
I am not familiar with the EJ22 engine,
but the car is so small,
you can't even fit a fourth quart of oil in the engine!
The EJ22 was the engine used in many of the early Legacies, among other
models. They are around 130 HP give or take a few ponies. It's what is in
my Legacy, so it's more or less my main point of reference for all Subaru
engines.
That's a tiny engine!
I had a three cylinder Chevy Sprint for years. It was a
993cc, IIRC. I'm sure shoe horning a 2.2 under a Justy
hood would require more than a little cutting. The
steering wheel may need to be mounted in the back seat.
It would require more than a little cutting.
If I am not mistaken, most Subaru engines are a "boxer" layout that mount
longitudinally in the body. The Justy engine is transversely mounted.
It would be easier to drop the body on a shortened Mustang chassis,
and shoe horn a 428 Cobra Jet engine in there! Probably cheaper too...
although I couldn't get more than 10 miles out of that tiny fuel tank...
This past weekend I pulled the engine and trans out, separated the trans
from the engine and transferred;
the valve cover, oil pump pickup, oil pan, water pipe, intake manifold,
exhaust manifold, catalyst, and cambelt cover to the ATK engine. I still
need a few odds and ends from the dealer, but I plan to open the trans this
week to look it over and replace the 2nd gear synchro and blocking ring at
the very least.
Little by little, it is coming together...
Danny Russell said:It's tough saying goodbye to good-running little cars like that isn't it? Especially when fuel
prices are rising. :^) I wish I'd've hung onto my Doge Colt (Mitsubishi Mirage) as a second car
alongside my Sube.
Is that motor a clean pull, or a refurb?
Hello Danny,
Thank you for your interest in my Justy project.
The engine that came out of the car was all original.
200,406 miles on the same head gasket.
(Original Clutch too, BTW)
The rebuilt engine that I am installing came from ATK.
Over all, they (ATK) did a reasonably good job.
The only thing, so far, that I found in error was that a small spacer
fitting in between the inner Timing Belt cover and the cylinder head was
missing, causing the front and rear halves of the cover to be miss-aligned.
I had to remove the belt, tensioner, and cam drive gear to install the
spacer from the original engine.
Danny Russell said:Is that the same engine used in the 3-cyl version of the smallest GEO Metro?
I was a bit distracted this past weekend and did not get much done on the
project.
One point of frustration that I encountered was that the distributor from
the original engine refuses to fit into the cylinder head of the ATK
rebuild. ATK appears to have sprayed some sort of aluminized paint on the
head to make it look pretty but this paint also found it's way onto the bore
that the distributor fits into.
The Distributor was a tight fit on the original engine and absolutely
refuses to enter the rebuilt head.
I used some acetone to remove the paint, but it still will not fit. At this
point I am thinking about dressing down the distributor housing a bit with
emery cloth or similar abrasive. Has anyone else run into this problem? is
it possible that there is paint on the camshaft bosses as well?
Please share your thoughts.
Danny Russell said:Homer, before you move forward with altering the dimensions of anything, you might want to contact
ATK about the problem to find out if there are subtle differences in distributors etc. Maybe
they've seen this problem before. -Danny
Saturday I found and removed several burrs that were preventing theOne point of frustration that I encountered was that the distributor from
the original engine refuses to fit into the cylinder head of the ATK
rebuild. ATK appears to have sprayed some sort of aluminized paint on the
head to make it look pretty but this paint also found it's way onto the bore
that the distributor fits into.
The Distributor was a tight fit on the original engine and absolutely
refuses to enter the rebuilt head.
Saturday I found and removed several burrs that were preventing the
distributor from entering the cylinder head. I ran into another problem,
however, the distributor is 3mm too long and will not mate up flush with the
head. This was verified with a vernier so I phoned ATK and left a voice
message. I also FAXed them with a brief description of the problem.
This morning I received a call from "Dan" at ATK and he gave me the number
to thier customer care center. (800) 421 3746
I called the CCC and gave the serial number and a detailed description to
them and my case was assigned to a tech named "Richard Ingrahm" I was told
that Richard will call me when he has reviewed the case.
Thank you ATK and Thank you Danny Russel for suggesting that I give them a
call.
I was advised by the ATK technician, Richard Ingrahm that my problem may
have been due to the possibility that the camshaft had shifted in transit
towards the transmission mounting end of the block and was not properly
mated with the thrust control surface of the head.
He aslo stated that his "Engineer" informed him that the distributor
controls one half of the total camshaft thrust.
Richard suggested that I loosen all of the valve adjusters (I removed them
to see better) and rotate the engine by hand while slowly drawing in the
distributor with it's mounting bolts.
To my amazement, the technique actually worked!
Once the distributor was fitted, I removed it to install the "O-Ring" and
discovered that it was missing from the gasket kit.
I went ahead and tightened the distributor in place without the "O-Ring" so
that I could adjust the valve clearence and was pleased with the results.
I will find an "O-Ring" on my own and finish dressing-up the engine this
week.
the o-ring?Homer, were you able to start the engine, or are you waiting to install
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