Return of the Samurai!

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

Subaru has claimed the new front grill is suppose to represent
Fuji's long time aviation history- producer of the Japanese
fighter planes, kamikaze and torpedo bombers during WW2
(original producer name was Nakajima company, which together
with 5 other firms merged to form Fuji Heavy Industries).

Anyone know whether Subaru's working names for their new
models B-5, B-9, etc. is also suppose to symbolize Fuji's
aviation heritage? A sort of in-your-stupid-Yankee-face act
of emulating the American bomber series of B-1, B-2, B-52,
and the infamous B-29 that dropped the Hiroshima and Nagasaki
bombs?

Is this a modern Samurai "die by your own sword" reply
to the American manufacturers such Ford, GM, lying in ther
deathbeds, or just a coincidence? From B-9, I think there is
a B-12 in the pipeline, to the B-29 ultimate revenge seems a
long way, Ford and GM are already half dead.

MN

Kinda fun to dream about but seems unlikely - though?.....

FHI presently builds the wings for the Boeing 777 (IIRC) so the aviation
connection is not just history.

GM may have committed 'seppuku' by giving the union all those medical
benefits in past negotiations - and I doubt Ford is as afraid of Subaru
as they would be of -say- Toyota for instance.
I dunno

Carl
1 Lucky Texan (btw; I think the front of my '06 WRX LOOKS like a
stylized japanese warrior!)

 

[MN]

Subaru has claimed the new front grill is suppose to represent
Fuji's long time aviation history- producer of the Japanese
fighter planes, kamikaze and torpedo bombers during WW2
(original producer name was Nakajima company, which together
with 5 other firms merged to form Fuji Heavy Industries).

Anyone know whether Subaru's working names for their new
models B-5, B-9, etc. is also suppose to symbolize Fuji's
aviation heritage? A sort of in-your-stupid-Yankee-face act
of emulating the American bomber series of B-1, B-2, B-52,
and the infamous B-29 that dropped the Hiroshima and Nagasaki
bombs?

Is this a modern Samurai "die by your own sword" reply
to the American manufacturers such Ford, GM, lying in ther
deathbeds, or just a coincidence? From B-9, I think there is
a B-12 in the pipeline, to the B-29 ultimate revenge seems a
long way, Ford and GM are already half dead.

MN

 

[bigjim]

Why'd you have to post this? I won't buy Mitsubishi products due tp
producing the Zero and other planes that sunk the Arizona and put 1000
of our boys on the bottom. Now Subaru has a bloodstained past too!!!
At least Isuzu only built vehicles such as trucks. Now I guess I wont
buy another subaru .

 

[Tim May]

Why'd you have to post this? I won't buy Mitsubishi products due tp
producing the Zero and other planes that sunk the Arizona and put 1000
of our boys on the bottom. Now Subaru has a bloodstained past too!!!
At least Isuzu only built vehicles such as trucks. Now I guess I wont
buy another subaru .

It was a war. Get over it.

The Japanese actually pulled off a stunning military defeat of the U.S.
at Pearl Harbor. The fact that thousands of Americans died is just one
of the statistics of war.

(That it was a "sneak attack" is irrelevant for the issue here, as
surely neither Mitsubishi nor Fuji (in the earlier form) nor any other
producer could have "known" that Tojo would order the attack the way he
did.)

I remember when "MGA" was the new leading producer of big-screen t.v.s
in the U.S., displacing Sony. (This was in the 1980s...some of you may
remember this.) I used to get a kick out of telling my friends that
that this great MGA actually stood for "Mitsubishi Group of America."
Now Mitsubishi labels its sets with the Mitsubishi name (except
leadership has passed to Samsung, Lucky Goldstar, etc.).

I think Fuji's heritage means that it's a credible supplier. Sort of
like the Japanese buying something from a company that helped make the
atom bomb. ("Aiii! Generar Erectric...we not buy from them!")


--Tim May

 

[bigjim]

It was a war. Get over it. <<

No it was an act of treachery by evil sneaky heathens. Those japs got
paid back in the internment camps and at hiroshima and nagasaki. I wish
we had more than two bombs. Any American who is not driven to rage at
the thought of the brave men going down on the Arizona is not worthy of
calling himself a real American. Now the japs have the gall to visit
the most heartwrenching memorial to US servicemen in existence.
at Pearl Harbor. The fact that thousands of Americans died is just one
of the statistics of war. <<

It wasnt very effective as an attack. Our carriers remained safe and
all it did was reignite the American spirit. The same spirit that
whooped England twice, the same ferocity that toppled Spain's empire,
and the same perseverence that made California part of our nation right
before gold was discovered. The real fault of Pearl Harbor lies with
the traitorous FDR who was advised of the jap fleet headed our way yet
chose to allow the attack . I will continue to not buy mitsubishi
products and now will not buy another subaru. That is easy since the
current designs of subaru vehicles are just piss poor. They shouldnt
have the nerve to call the 05-06 wagons "outback" since they took away
all the design/styling cues that made it a unique vehicle. The tribeca
clearly shows how out of touch subaru mangement is . I wish American
makers would start using some od the following vehicle names;
"liberator, dauntless, avenger, lightning, mustang, thunderbolt,
corsair" to let the jap know hes in our sights.

 

[Tim May]

If you read the history of FHI, it bears little resemblance to Nakajima.
IIRC, the Americans broke it up into 17 different companies, over the
years many of those dissolved, then the remaining 5 merged into one -
that is why they use those stars for a logo, its a well known Japanese
constellation whose name also means 'united'.

If it's a well-known Japanese constellation, it must be visible to us
as well, as we are in the same (Northern) hemisphere.

And it is. The Pleiades. The Seven Sisters.


--Tim May

 

[beebs]

No it was an act of treachery by evil sneaky
heathens. Those japs got paid back in the
internment camps and at hiroshima and nagasaki.

American *citizens* who happened to be
Japanese were imprisoned in concentration
camps and you call it payback?

I wish we had more than two bombs.

This statement is *monstrous*. Japan was crumbling
at the end of the war, and we dropped super weapons
to get them to surrender quicker?

Some say we used the A-Bombs on the japanese to
get test data on the effects of radiation for
humans and fetuses.

Any American who is not driven to rage at
the thought of the brave men going down on
the Arizona is not worthy of
calling himself a real American.

So you say.

The real fault of Pearl Harbor lies with
the traitorous FDR who was advised of the
jap fleet headed our way yet
chose to allow the attack.

I call "Bullshit!" on this, and request that
you provide a peer-reviewed citation indicating
that FDR *KNEW* of the attack and let it occur.

If this so called "fact" had come out in 1942,
FDR would have been impeached.

beebs
anarchist

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

No it was an act of treachery by evil sneaky heathens. Those japs got
paid back in the internment camps and at hiroshima and nagasaki. I wish
we had more than two bombs. Any American who is not driven to rage at
the thought of the brave men going down on the Arizona is not worthy of
calling himself a real American. Now the japs have the gall to visit
the most heartwrenching memorial to US servicemen in existence.



at Pearl Harbor. The fact that thousands of Americans died is just one
of the statistics of war. <<

It wasnt very effective as an attack. Our carriers remained safe and
all it did was reignite the American spirit. The same spirit that
whooped England twice, the same ferocity that toppled Spain's empire,
and the same perseverence that made California part of our nation right
before gold was discovered. The real fault of Pearl Harbor lies with
the traitorous FDR who was advised of the jap fleet headed our way yet
chose to allow the attack . I will continue to not buy mitsubishi
products and now will not buy another subaru. That is easy since the
current designs of subaru vehicles are just piss poor. They shouldnt
have the nerve to call the 05-06 wagons "outback" since they took away
all the design/styling cues that made it a unique vehicle. The tribeca
clearly shows how out of touch subaru mangement is . I wish American
makers would start using some od the following vehicle names;
"liberator, dauntless, avenger, lightning, mustang, thunderbolt,
corsair" to let the jap know hes in our sights.

I just sold my Dodge Avenger and replaced it with an '06 WRX wagon. OBTW
- my Avenger had a Mitsubishi engine.

If you read the history of FHI, it bears little resemblance to Nakajima.
IIRC, the Americans broke it up into 17 different companies, over the
years many of those dissolved, then the remaining 5 merged into one -
that is why they use those stars for a logo, its a well known Japanese
constellation whose name also means 'united'.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

 

[bigjim]

American *citizens* who happened to be
Japanese were imprisoned in concentration
camps and you call it payback? <<

Some of these wonderful "citizans" in Hawaii actually tried to smuggle
a downed jap flyer to a sub. Their loyalty was surely questionable.

 

[CompUser]

(e-mail address removed)>,
(e-mail address removed) says...

Now Mitsubishi labels its sets with the Mitsubishi name (except
leadership has passed to Samsung, Lucky Goldstar, etc.).

Korean companies, no less...get over it! ))

 

[CompUser]

If it's a well-known Japanese constellation, it must be visible to us
as well, as we are in the same (Northern) hemisphere.

And it is. The Pleiades. The Seven Sisters.

...but apparently NOT visible in Texas.


;-)

 

[Wandering Willy]

Make sure you don't buy a Ford product either, since Henry was a big
supporter of Hitler.

 

[Wandering Willy]

Oh look. It's the "sneaky heathens" line. I thought we only used
that on Muslims now.

And "japs", too. With an attitude like that, I assume you have no
electronics in your possession...how do you post to the 'net?

What about German stuff? I guess you can't drive a Chrysler, since
it's a German company now.

Since your "brave men" sat on their asses and refused to get into the
war, because people like Henry Ford thought that Hitler was right,
what possible point are you trying to make? The rest of the world was
fighting for their lives. Don't go all self righteous on me, you
ignorant turd.

 

[MN]

I remember when "MGA" was the new leading producer of big-screen t.v.s
in the U.S., displacing Sony. (This was in the 1980s...some of you may
remember this.) I used to get a kick out of telling my friends that
that this great MGA actually stood for "Mitsubishi Group of America."
Now Mitsubishi labels its sets with the Mitsubishi name ... .

Where they selling the Mitsubishi TV's with working names
such as 'Zero,' or 'One' 'Two' etc?

Would a B-52 TV model designation, or B-29 Big Screen
be more pleasing to you than a meaningless numeric
designation such as M5011s or whatever?

I am just wondering if there is a market in the US that
would like to buy such names. Maybe these are the people
Subaru is trying to reach using their B-1, B-2, or B-5, B-9
aviation bomber type designations?

MN

 

[Rick Courtright]

Why'd you have to post this? I won't buy Mitsubishi products due tp
producing the Zero and other planes that sunk the Arizona and put 1000

Hi,

I've got an idea: why don't you refuse to buy from EVERYONE who has ever
committed an offense against the US if you're so patriotic and concerned
with the loss of American lives? With luck, perhaps you'll still be able
to eat...

That war was over 60 years ago. No amount of breast-beating today will
undo history, but if we don't go around with our heads up our arses, we
can learn from it. We face far greater dangers from emerging threats
(can you say "China's building up its military with no apparent threat
on the horizon?" or "9-11?") than from a former enemy vanquished over
half a century ago who's been a loyal ally since.

Perhaps you've got a reason to grind your axe, but I don't see it.
Methinks it's time to move on.

Rick

 

[Rick Courtright]

Now Mitsubishi labels its sets with the Mitsubishi name (except

Hi,

I think my favorite vanity plate of all time was the one I saw on a red
Mitsubishi 3000 GT when they first came out. I always thought those cars
were a "working man's midlife crisis machine" and the driver WAS a bit
of a greybeard. License plate said "1FSTZRO."

You'd be surprised how many people give me a blank look when I tell
about that one.

Rick

 

[bigjim]

that on Muslims now. <<

They snuck us on 9/11 but he're crusading now to handle them

it's a German company now<<

Germany committed no aggression towards the US in WWII. Hitler was a
european problem. The nips committed many atrocities against American,
Pearl Harbor Bataan and every prison camp our boys suffered in.. I
have no moral objection to buying German products. I'd love to have a
Porsche in fact. Germans are known for precision equipment and theri
equipment in WW2 was no exception. I would probably avoid Chrysler for
quality concerns rather than moral ones.

 

[bigjim]

That war was over 60 years ago. No amount of breast-beating today will
undo history<<

Our leaders forgot about jap treachery and allowed our borders to get
porous so that terrorists were able to get in.
(can you say "China's building up its military with no apparent threat
on the horizon?" <<

China is not a problem. There;s just a lot of them to kill.

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

..but apparently NOT visible in Texas.


;-)

You are so full of drollery.

Yes, the pleiades and the subaru constellations are hte same group of
stars - just don't see what 'pleiades' has to do with my post on the
history of FHI. So I never considered mentioning it. Don't confuse my
not posting on a subject with any ignorance on my part. Oh - I'm plenty
ignorant alright - just don't want you to be confused. lol!

btw - FHI produced the Rabbit for folks to drive around long before VW -
it was a scooter!

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

I just sold my Dodge Avenger and replaced it with an '06 WRX wagon. OBTW
- my Avenger had a Mitsubishi engine.

If you read the history of FHI, it bears little resemblance to Nakajima.
IIRC, the Americans broke it up into 17 different companies, over the
years many of those dissolved, then the remaining 5 merged into one -
that is why they use those stars for a logo, its a well known Japanese
constellation whose name also means 'united'.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

some fun history;
http://www.fujirabbit.com/pages/history.html
http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/press/1210news/12_10profile.htm

Carl