Only Subaru magazine

[Fuzzy Logic]

I just stumbled across this. It's got some decent articles:

http://www.drive.subaru.com/

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

You don't get it delivered to you home?

It is actually petty interesting. I've gotten them automagically ever
since I bought my 01 new.

Must be a USA only thing. I'm in Canada.

 

[Todd H.]

I just stumbled across this. It's got some decent articles:

http://www.drive.subaru.com/

You don't get it delivered to you home?

It is actually petty interesting. I've gotten them automagically ever
since I bought my 01 new.

 

[Mark L]

I just stumbled across this. It's got some decent articles:

http://www.drive.subaru.com/

I was getting the magazine delivered free
when I made the BIG MISTAKE of buying
a 2002 Subaru Forester. That car turned
out to be the biggest piece of crap I ever
owned! A big bulbous gas drinking boat
that rode like a 20 year old semi-trailer
and was made with the cheapest plastic
and pleather (plastic vinyl imitation leather)
that I ever encountered. The Subaru Dealer service
was a complete nightmare, they having put a quart
under/short oil at the first scheduled maintenance
and didn't even bother to check the tires
for proper inflation and grease spots rubbed
into the floor mats. Then there's Drive magazine.
100% Subaru sales propaganda to keep suckers
coming back to buy their CRAP CARS.

I traded the OBW in at 6800 miles for a
General Motors Cadillac STS which offers
a FAR SUPERIOUR ride and is built like
a tank compared to that piece of shit Subaru
it replaced.

I still get Drive Magazine, but I now use it to
start the fire in the wood stove with. A pity
that I could not do the same with parts of the cheap
upholstry in the Subaru I traded it...that would have been
so satisfying...almost as much as the thought of
tossing a f-n clay brick thru that Subaru Dealership's
plate glass window which is also an appealing notion!

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

so - was it a Forester or an OBW?

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

 

[H]

Hey GOOF! What an idiot troll. Wonder why you still troll the Subaru group.

 

[Hallraker]

I was getting the magazine delivered free
when I made the BIG MISTAKE of buying
a 2002 Subaru Forester. That car turned
out to be the biggest piece of crap I ever
owned! A big bulbous gas drinking boat
that rode like a 20 year old semi-trailer
and was made with the cheapest plastic
and pleather (plastic vinyl imitation leather)
that I ever encountered. The Subaru Dealer service
was a complete nightmare, they having put a quart
under/short oil at the first scheduled maintenance
and didn't even bother to check the tires
for proper inflation and grease spots rubbed
into the floor mats. Then there's Drive magazine.
100% Subaru sales propaganda to keep suckers
coming back to buy their CRAP CARS.

I traded the OBW in at 6800 miles for a
General Motors Cadillac STS which offers
a FAR SUPERIOUR ride and is built like
a tank compared to that piece of shit Subaru
it replaced.

I still get Drive Magazine, but I now use it to
start the fire in the wood stove with. A pity
that I could not do the same with parts of the cheap
upholstry in the Subaru I traded it...that would have been
so satisfying...almost as much as the thought of
tossing a f-n clay brick thru that Subaru Dealership's
plate glass window which is also an appealing notion!

Silly troll, Cadillacs are for kids!

-Matt

 

[JD]

I was getting the magazine delivered free
when I made the BIG MISTAKE of buying
a 2002 Subaru Forester. That car turned
out to be the biggest piece of crap I ever
owned! A big bulbous gas drinking boat
that rode like a 20 year old semi-trailer
and was made with the cheapest plastic
and pleather (plastic vinyl imitation leather)
that I ever encountered. The Subaru Dealer service
was a complete nightmare, they having put a quart
under/short oil at the first scheduled maintenance
and didn't even bother to check the tires
for proper inflation and grease spots rubbed
into the floor mats. Then there's Drive magazine.
100% Subaru sales propaganda to keep suckers
coming back to buy their CRAP CARS.

I traded the OBW in at 6800 miles for a
General Motors Cadillac STS which offers
a FAR SUPERIOUR ride and is built like
a tank compared to that piece of shit Subaru
it replaced.

You must be trolling. A Caddy, at twice the price should ride better; but
it doesn't.

 

[SilverFXT (was BlueSTi)]

I was getting the magazine delivered free
when I made the BIG MISTAKE of buying
a 2002 Subaru Forester. That car turned
out to be the biggest piece of crap I ever
owned! A big bulbous gas drinking boat
that rode like a 20 year old semi-trailer
and was made with the cheapest plastic
and pleather (plastic vinyl imitation leather)
that I ever encountered. The Subaru Dealer service
was a complete nightmare, they having put a quart
under/short oil at the first scheduled maintenance
and didn't even bother to check the tires
for proper inflation and grease spots rubbed
into the floor mats. Then there's Drive magazine.
100% Subaru sales propaganda to keep suckers
coming back to buy their CRAP CARS.

I traded the OBW in at 6800 miles for a
General Motors Cadillac STS which offers
a FAR SUPERIOUR ride and is built like
a tank compared to that piece of shit Subaru
it replaced.

I still get Drive Magazine, but I now use it to
start the fire in the wood stove with. A pity
that I could not do the same with parts of the cheap
upholstry in the Subaru I traded it...that would have been
so satisfying...almost as much as the thought of
tossing a f-n clay brick thru that Subaru Dealership's
plate glass window which is also an appealing notion!

So, tell us how you really feel ; - )
OBW to a Cadillac! Now that's a change! A new STS lists for over
$50,000 US dollars. In that price range I'd be more likely to buy a
new Z06 Corvette.

SilverFXT
"Hey you just got smoked by an SUV!"

 

[Mark L]

so - was it a Forester or an OBW?

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

It was an 02 Outback Wagon (OBW) with
the L.L. Bean Edition package. If you want
to see what it was, you can see one that
is exactly like the one I traded at the URL below....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31870&item=4522601189

This car (not the one above) was a complete piece of crap.
The damm thing drove like my aunt's 20 year old Ford
LTD station wagon. (in fact if Subaru had put faux wood
grain panels on the doors you couldn't tell the difference
in rides on a blindfold test, it was THAT bad.) The Shit-aru
fishtailed on me twice in snow-covered roads, so much for
that "superiour beauty of Subaru AWD". What a load
of crap from their marketing department, AWD, what BS!
The chintzy brown plastic around the center console actually
CRACKED on me in cold weather when I was driving and
hit a pothole one day in February, the seat heaters took forever to warm
up, the CD player would malfunction in hot weather and
the seats were uncomfortable for anyone except a midget
or if you were a very short Japanese. Only good thing was the
H6 engine did start up every time, but it drank gas like a
Ford Excursion pickup truck. I am VERY glad to be
rid of it. I traded it in for a General Motors Cadillac
STS (new) which to date has had ZERO defects or problems
and offers a FAR SUPERIOUR ride when compared to
that piece of shit recycled plastic Subaru it replaced.

I will NEVER buy another Subaru and I STRONGLY
DISCOURAGE anyone from purchasing any of their
products. They are overpriced and overhyped junk
with 4 wheels. (did you see that new SUV their hyping
of late? What an UGLY PIECE OF CRAP. Looks like
Subaru has cornered the market on the latest incarnation
of the infamous 1959 Edsel for 2005 - Subaru and Ford
should really get together....they both design and build
overpriced crap cars that ain't worth recycling as their
metal and plastic should never be re-used to make
another car anyplace....unless they ship
the junkers to the former Soviet Union of course....grin)

 

[Mark L]

Silly troll, Cadillacs are for kids!

-Matt

My new (well slightly new) Cadillac may not out
run a WRX Matt, but come back in 10 Years and
let's compare repair and service notes between
your Subie and my Caddy. My guess is you will
have spent 2 to 3 times what I will have on routine
and required maintenance. (especially if you take
your Subaru to one of their "Authorized Dealer
Service Centers". My experience with the one
in Pennsylvania was a complete nightmare, it was
run by bonobo chimpanzees who didn't know an
oil filler cap from a freeze plug and the quality of
their "Subaru Authorized Service" workmanship
showed it plain as day. I dumped the car (02 Outback
L.L. Bean Edition H6) rather than put up with what
I saw was their utterly incompetent service performed
by their alleged "Factory Certified Technicians".
This plus the many defects that started to show up
over time in the first 6 Months of owenership told
me deep within to DUMP this LEMON as fast
as I could. Oh...did I mention that several calls to
the Subaru Corporate/Customer HQ in NJ produced
no help whatsoever..? Their attitude, to put it as
simple as possible was "You f--king own it and you
work things out with our Dealer".

Never Never again Mark. Subaru is the WORST
car company I have ever had to deal with. They were
even worse than Ford....which is pretty damm bad in
anyone's book by any measure.

If you own a Subaru, I wish you luck...you will need it
if you ever need to ask their Dealer or Corporate
Network for help.

 

[JD]

It was an 02 Outback Wagon (OBW) with
the L.L. Bean Edition package. If you want
to see what it was, you can see one that
is exactly like the one I traded at the URL below....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31870&item=4522601189

This car (not the one above) was a complete piece of crap.
The damm thing drove like my aunt's 20 year old Ford
LTD station wagon. (in fact if Subaru had put faux wood
grain panels on the doors you couldn't tell the difference
in rides on a blindfold test, it was THAT bad.) The Shit-aru
fishtailed on me twice in snow-covered roads, so much for
that "superiour beauty of Subaru AWD". What a load
of crap from their marketing department, AWD, what BS!
The chintzy brown plastic around the center console actually
CRACKED on me in cold weather when I was driving and
hit a pothole one day in February, the seat heaters took forever to warm
up, the CD player would malfunction in hot weather and
the seats were uncomfortable for anyone except a midget
or if you were a very short Japanese. Only good thing was the
H6 engine did start up every time, but it drank gas like a
Ford Excursion pickup truck. I am VERY glad to be
rid of it. I traded it in for a General Motors Cadillac
STS (new) which to date has had ZERO defects or problems
and offers a FAR SUPERIOUR ride when compared to
that piece of shit recycled plastic Subaru it replaced.

I will NEVER buy another Subaru and I STRONGLY
DISCOURAGE anyone from purchasing any of their
products. They are overpriced and overhyped junk
with 4 wheels. (did you see that new SUV their hyping
of late? What an UGLY PIECE OF CRAP. Looks like
Subaru has cornered the market on the latest incarnation
of the infamous 1959 Edsel for 2005 - Subaru and Ford
should really get together....they both design and build
overpriced crap cars that ain't worth recycling as their
metal and plastic should never be re-used to make
another car anyplace....unless they ship
the junkers to the former Soviet Union of course....grin)

Funny that GM is in partnership with Subaru and that the WRX was used to
build the Saaburu. Oh wait! The Saabaru was build by Subaru.

I drove GM cars for years before moving over to Subaru. To date (two years)
I have had ZERO problems with the car with some 67,000KM on it. By this
time, I had mondo problems with all of my GM cars that were comparably
priced. So, I would guess that any number of Subaru owners would take your
bet. Your twice-the-price Caddy should be better than the Subarus, but I'll
bet it won't be. At the end of the day, yours will wear out sooner (read
fewer miles) and you will have spent much more to keep it running.

You sound an awful lot like that troll Fafoofnik

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

Your OP was confusing as you begin saying you had a Forester. Also, did
you not sit in the seats before you bought it?
Most of the problems you outline are not shared by other owners. ANY
individual vehicle can have problems that the average vehicle will never
exhibit. I'm sure somewhere there are caddy owners with plenty of horror
stories.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

 

[John Rethorst]

Must be a USA only thing. I'm in Canada.

Yours is called "Six Star Review, The Magazine for Canadian Subaru Owners". See
http://subaru.ca

 

[SilverFXT]

This car (not the one above) was a complete piece of crap.
The damm thing drove like my aunt's 20 year old Ford
LTD station wagon. (in fact if Subaru had put faux wood
grain panels on the doors you couldn't tell the difference
in rides on a blindfold test, it was THAT bad.) The Shit-aru
fishtailed on me twice in snow-covered roads, so much for
that "superiour beauty of Subaru AWD". What a load
of crap from their marketing department, AWD, what BS!
The chintzy brown plastic around the center console actually
CRACKED on me in cold weather when I was driving and
hit a pothole one day in February, the seat heaters took forever to warm
up, the CD player would malfunction in hot weather and
the seats were uncomfortable for anyone except a midget
or if you were a very short Japanese. Only good thing was the
H6 engine did start up every time, but it drank gas like a
Ford Excursion pickup truck. I am VERY glad to be
rid of it. I traded it in for a General Motors Cadillac
STS (new) which to date has had ZERO defects or problems
and offers a FAR SUPERIOUR ride when compared to
that piece of shit recycled plastic Subaru it replaced.

I will NEVER buy another Subaru and I STRONGLY
DISCOURAGE anyone from purchasing any of their
products. They are overpriced and overhyped junk
with 4 wheels. (did you see that new SUV their hyping
of late? What an UGLY PIECE OF CRAP. Looks like
Subaru has cornered the market on the latest incarnation
of the infamous 1959 Edsel for 2005 - Subaru and Ford
should really get together....they both design and build
overpriced crap cars that ain't worth recycling as their
metal and plastic should never be re-used to make
another car anyplace....unless they ship
the junkers to the former Soviet Union of course....grin)

Sounds like maybe you did get a lemon. I've had plenty of lemons but
none were Subarus. My STi worked absolutely flawlessly. And the old
right-hand drive Legacy my wife used on the mail route for 168,000
miles worked fine. And she beat the crap out of it. We did nothing
special to either car other than the ocassional oil change. Our new
Forester XT doesn't exhibit any of the negative characteristics you
mention. The seats heat up almost instantly, Sound system is pretty
dag gone nice. I don't know how the seats could be more comfortable.
We average about 24 mpg. That's not great but for 235 ft/lbs of
torque and full time AWD it's not awful. For an small SUV that's
actually pretty decent. My STi averaged about 24 mpg and it had 300
hp. Most folks I talk too would only get about 16-18 mpg. Tells you
a little bit about how I drive, doesn't it?
I have never had any luck with any dealership, GM, Honda, Subaru,
Ford, or Fiat. I've owned them all. And I wouldn't trust any service
department to check the air in my tires! No one cares as much about
your car as much as you do. I don't care what they say!
The next Chevy that I will buy will be a Corvette. I won't think
about a Cadillac until I'm ready for Depends and Viagra.

SilverFXT
"Hey you just got smoked by an SUV!"

 

[Vince C]

Off troll subject back on original thread. There is a true magazine
being make for Subaru cars. I haven't seen it, just an ad for it.
Topics I think more relate to modding and racing? If you really want
to find it go to www.nasioc.com forum or clubwrx.com and do a "magazine"
search.

 

[SilverFXT]

Off troll subject back on original thread. There is a true magazine
being make for Subaru cars. I haven't seen it, just an ad for it.
Topics I think more relate to modding and racing? If you really want
to find it go to www.nasioc.com forum or clubwrx.com and do a "magazine"
search.

There is an online version at http://www.drive.subaru.com/



SilverFXT
"Hey you just got smoked by an SUV!"

 

[Hallan Blaggit]

Well, if you're too dim to see the difference between an OBW and a
Forester, no wonder you had problems.

With that display of intellect, i can see why a Cadillac is the right
car for you.

 

[Paul Braun]

products. They are overpriced and overhyped junk
with 4 wheels. (did you see that new SUV their hyping
of late? What an UGLY PIECE OF CRAP. Looks like

[/QUOTE]

When was the last time you looked at a Cadillac Escalade? Or, for
that matter, anyting in the current Caddy line? All boxy and wedgy,
kind of like what you'd get if you gave a 5-year-old a block of clay
and said, "Make me a car".

 

[mychevworld]

I recently bought a new 2004 Forester and have decided I also would not
buy another one.

The heater is next to useless for cold feet.
The steering is too quick for me. Don't ever look away, you could be in
the ditch.
Our 1st sevice cost was outragous.