Longevity of WRXs...?

Discussion in 'Subaru Impreza' started by BD, Apr 10, 2006.

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    BD Guest

    Hey, all...

    I'm coming up on the end of a 4 year lease on an '02 WRX Wagon, and am
    deciding whether to hang onto it at all. At this point it has about
    26000 miles on it.

    Can anyone out there comment on how long these cars tend to last before
    they really start to become expensive to maintain? So far, it's been no
    real trouble. But I know there will be the 'sweet spot' time when it's
    time to flip it.

    I just don't know when that is likely to be...??


    BD, Apr 10, 2006
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    Jim Stewart Guest

    Subaru's in general are just getting
    nicely broken in at 26k. Assuming
    you've treated your WRX nice, it should
    go at least another 150k
    Jim Stewart, Apr 10, 2006
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    BD Guest

    Assuming you've treated your WRX nice, it should go at least another 150k

    I _think_ I have. I am a little concerned about oil consumption; the
    level was rather low last service (just last week), and I haven't
    gotten an answer why yet.

    It's mostly used for city driving. No aggressive rallies lately ;-),
    certainly no 'honk on the turbo and then stop the motor cold' kind of

    The only thing I do which might be considered 'iffy' behavior is engine
    braking. I'm trying to break the habit, for the sake of the clutch and
    the synchros, but oh well. I don't do it all the time, but probably
    more than I should.

    I'm also not clear if that could be a possible factor in oil
    consumption. The research on that point continues...

    BD, Apr 10, 2006
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    David Betts Guest

    Still running my early car. 10 years old now. Only 70,000 miles,
    though. Still going strong. No real problems. Clutch replaced at 60
    something, of course. Probably needs it's third or fourth set of front
    discs soon and another set of those sticky black round things. Drove
    it the other day for the first time in weeks - usually only use it
    when I'm going somewhere. Even on a short local hop, I was reminded
    what a joy this car is to drive. Never use it without getting well on
    boost at least once. Love it.
    David Betts, Apr 10, 2006
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    CompUser Guest

    You've gone thru three sets of front rotors, in
    70K miles??
    CompUser, Apr 10, 2006
  6. *jealous*

    My WRX is almost exactly 2 years old, and over 29K miles.

    Then again, a lot of those were fun, twisty curves driving to ski
    resorts and trailheads, so maybe I shouldn't complain *grin*
    Monique Y. Mudama, Apr 10, 2006
  7. I think stop-and-go city driving is considered hard usage, to some
    extent. Not as hard as rallies, I'm sure ...
    Is engine braking considered bad for a car? I didn't know that ...
    Monique Y. Mudama, Apr 10, 2006
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    BD Guest

    Is engine braking considered bad for a car? I didn't know that ...

    Well, I don't expect it's a _horrible_ practice, but it does work the
    motor and the synchros; one guy basically said to me that if you're
    gonna use _anything_ to slow down, why not just use the 'cheap' brakes
    alone, instead of adding wear on the more expensive clutch and the very
    expensive synchros?
    BD, Apr 10, 2006
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    BD Guest

    Then again, a lot of those were fun, twisty curves driving to ski resorts and trailheads,

    Oh, I've had my fun too - nothing like taking a sharp turn and hearing
    the front left tire start to slip because it's almost off the ground. ;)
    BD, Apr 10, 2006
  10. Well, it's a different feel ... personally I like to use both. Down
    shifting also feels like it gives more control (less chance of slip) in
    rain and snow. But I didn't realize it could end up costing me
    Monique Y. Mudama, Apr 10, 2006
  11. Okay, maybe I haven't had as much fun as you have =P
    Monique Y. Mudama, Apr 10, 2006
  12. I suspect that it's not too bad if you rev-match reasonably as you
    downshift and if you don't have the clutch pedal partly down for a spell
    each time. You shouldn't be 'slipping' the clutch much trying to
    downshift smoothly, and you should rev the engine as you downshift to
    near where it's about to end up anyway - if you get those wrong you may
    cause a fair bit of wear - but with practice you should be able to
    downshift quickly and smoothly for engine braking. I don't go through
    clutch units and transmissions all that quickly but, yes, brakes are
    cheaper. (-:

    I like being in an appropriate gear for most of the time so that I can
    accelerate immediately even if I didn't expect to have to. I may place
    more importance on that than is usual, though.

    -- Mark
    Mark T.B. Carroll, Apr 10, 2006
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    BD Guest

    But I didn't realize it could end up costing me megabucks.

    To be clear, I don't have any hard info on that - only opinions
    expressed here - which, when I think about them, do make intuitive

    I won't discourage you from doing as you're used to doing - but it may
    warrant some research to be clear on what's up.
    BD, Apr 10, 2006
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    Bugalugs Guest

    It's the way I learnt to drive and I've always done it that way and
    *never* had a transmission failure. In the days of rear wheel drive it
    meant that your braking was being done by the rear wheels and you still
    had the fronts for steering and braking should an emergency arise.

    But that was in the days of drum brakes.

    Slowing down using you gears means always you also have another braking
    system available should you need it. Slowing just on brakes, well......
    Bugalugs, Apr 10, 2006
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    BD Guest

    Slowing just on brakes, well......

    Oh yeah - definitely, if I need to stop fast, I'll use the brakes plus
    the engine - but what that guy said in that one post does kind of stick
    with me. Not so much that engine braking is bad for the motor, but that
    it can end up using more oil than it should. Just kind of put a bug in
    my ear, is all...
    BD, Apr 10, 2006
  16. Yes, exactly. Several years ago, a year or two into the ownership of
    my first manual transmission car, my dad noticed that I didn't
    downshift. "Hey, you're missing half the fun of shifting!" Honestly,
    it hadn't occured to me to try. After that, I started practicing, and
    now I'd say that anyone who doesn't use downshifting is missing a
    major benefit of driving stick.

    I especially appreciate engine braking when I have a lot of weight in
    the car, because it gives me more braking power than brakes alone. It
    also can feel smoother in inclement weather (although it may be that
    I'm slipping the clutch to acheive that; fortunately the weather's
    beautiful right now, so I can't test it =)).
    Monique Y. Mudama, Apr 10, 2006
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    SuperPoo Guest

    It's not real fun until the backend is hanging out in the other lane :)

    SuperPoo, Apr 10, 2006
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    KLS Guest

    This is exactly what I do, and I'm still on the factory clutch of my
    98 Audi A4 at 97k miles, feels like new, still. The 99 Legacy OBW, on
    the other hand, had to have a new clutch put in at about 79k miles. We
    bought the car used, so who knows how the original owner drove it, but
    the regular driver of the Subaru (not I) *had* a bad habit of riding
    the clutch. The repair bill cured that condition. :)
    You do, but I agree, I love being in the "right" gear just so I can
    react properly. Part of it is motorcycle safety training, too, which
    emphasizes this point.
    KLS, Apr 10, 2006
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    Black WRX Guest

    Bought my WRX in 11/2001 (wagon, manual). 65K miles and running great.
    Except recent center differential swap which was already discussed here
    and considered as just a bad luck, I had no other major issues. Brake
    pads changed at 35K and probably to be changed again in about 5K. Clutch
    still in perfect shape. Probably the most reliable car I've ever had in
    my 19 years driving career.
    Black WRX, Apr 10, 2006
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    David Betts Guest

    I think the next set will be the third set of discs, yet. One set soon
    after purchase and another since. This is a Rex, you know. Even
    someone as gently on the brakes as I am is going to wear them out in
    20 or 30 thou. These things are consumables.
    David Betts, Apr 11, 2006
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