Hybrid Subaru?

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Dwight Morrow

I heard a rumor Subaru will be coming out with a hybrid soon. Does anybody
know anything about this?

Regards, Dwight
'97 Legacy Wagon
'03 Legacy GT Sedan
 
I heard a rumor Subaru will be coming out with a hybrid soon. Does anybody
know anything about this?
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I haven't heard about this, but I sure hope you heard right and I missed
something. I would *love* to make my next car a Subie hybrid. :>



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I would love to buy a Subaru hybrid. However, if they wait to long, I'll go
with the Prius... something I'd never thought I'd do since I am so loyal to
Subaru.
John
 
John said:
I would love to buy a Subaru hybrid. However, if they wait to long, I'll go
with the Prius... something I'd never thought I'd do since I am so loyal to
Subaru.
John
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You guys hopefully realize that the current generation hybrids only work
well in city stop-and-go traffic, and are absolute dogs on long-distance
highway driving?

- D.
 
Huh? I recommend you go and rent one. My Forester was in the shop for body
repair and I rented a Toyota Prius. After one week of driving it I didn't
want to give it back. The Forester is now sold and I own a Prius.
Absolutely wonderful for all kinds of driving, including my 70 mile
round-trip commute and trips hundreds of miles away. It is much quieter
than my Forester was and gets 50+mpg in the summer, 47 in the winter.

(Household still has 2 other Outback wagons..)
 
I think you are a couple of years behind...never been in a Toyota hybrid but
the Honda Civic will out run my Legacy all day long city or highway.TG
 
But he's talking about a Honda Civic. Are you calling that a hybrid?
If so, that's a new development for this old boy. I've had one, only
one, but it was gasoline 4 cycle!
 
Okay, but back to your original comment, are you sure that the Honda
Civic that outruns your Subie all day long is a hybrid? I would have to
be convinced of that... That's the very reason I'd never consider buying
a hybrid for hiway driving, they are so speed limited. In fact, when I
drove a Honda recently (before buying the Forester) I asked the salesman
about his hybrids and that was his remark to me. He'd never try to use
one for a highway car! Do you know differently?
 
The Civic hybrid...and it IS a hybrid, my best friends car, might have a
speed limiter as most new cars do but we recently drove it on a 240 mile
trip going 80MPH all the way. The speed limit here is 75MPH so not much use
in anything faster. Instead of asking me just read some of the online
reviews.
The car EASILY did the 80MPH and we were not pushing it in any way, heck
it was brand new and not broke in yet. A really cool car if you can get used
to some of the weird stuff.
Are you sure your not thinking of an electric car or something?
WHY would a hybrid be speed limited or make a poor highway car? TG
 
Hi,
My neighbor lady has Honda Hybrid and she frequently drives to Vancouver
from here(Calgary). ~1000Km trip over a high pass. She says no problem.
Unless you're speed maniac.
Tony
 
Huh? I recommend you go and rent one. My Forester was in the shop for
body repair and I rented a Toyota Prius. After one week of driving it I
didn't want to give it back. The Forester is now sold and I own a
Prius. Absolutely wonderful for all kinds of driving, including my 70
mile round-trip commute and trips hundreds of miles away. It is much
quieter than my Forester was and gets 50+mpg in the summer, 47 in the
winter.

(Household still has 2 other Outback wagons..)
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Interesting editorial on Hybrids (lot's to think about):

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pb/hybrids.htm
 
Fuzzy Logic said:
Interesting editorial on Hybrids (lot's to think about):

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pb/hybrids.htm
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Luddism at it's best. The fact of the matter is that very early
implementations of the Hybrid technology are already more efficient and
provide cleaner engines than almost 100 years of diesel development - and
unlike the mechanical nature of diesel technology - will probably have the
same fast development that other high-technology sectors enjoyed in the past
decade.

Why invest in a 19th century technology when you can invest in 21st century
technology is beyond me - but only time will tell.

As for the specific questions he asks -

- What is the price of replacing the batteries in the hybrid - they are
under warranty for 7 or 8 years, the real question is how much they will
cost to replace at that time. (How much did 512MB of memory cost 7 years
ago?)
- How much for the electric motor - this should be easy to find - the
electric motor is something that you can find in millions of appliances -
the smarts of the Hybrids are not the motor itself which is proven
technology - but the management and interaction between the two engines and
the regenerative components.
- Salt and sand spray - why should these components be any different from
any other component that is enclosed?
- Why does the Prius cost so much more than the Echo? - Because we are in an
early phase of development and one of them is a sub-compact while the other
is a medium sized machine. The correct comparison is between the Prius and
the Camry - but the "editorial" chose to ask the question that presented
it's point of view in a falltering light instead of comparing apples to
apples.
- Why sell a car for half it's cost - Toyota states that they have made
money on the first generation Prius and plan to do the same for the 2nd -
can he really support his opinion that they are losing money building it?

Ron.
 
TG said:
The Civic hybrid...and it IS a hybrid, my best friends car, might have a
speed limiter as most new cars do but we recently drove it on a 240 mile
trip going 80MPH all the way. The speed limit here is 75MPH so not much use
in anything faster. Instead of asking me just read some of the online
reviews.
The car EASILY did the 80MPH and we were not pushing it in any way, heck
it was brand new and not broke in yet. A really cool car if you can get used
to some of the weird stuff.
Are you sure your not thinking of an electric car or something?
WHY would a hybrid be speed limited or make a poor highway car? TG
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Nope, as I said in my earlier note, I was at our Honda dealer talking to the
salesman and it was HE who told me about the Hybrid Civic. Said he'd never
even consider one since they were such poor highway cars. I gathered the
speed
was limited, the range was limited and the comfort was the equal of the
other
two. Good to hear you've had better experience with one!
 
The Honda 'hybrid' is in no way, shape, or form a true hybrid similar to the
Toyota Prius.
The Honda has a 14 hp motor to augment the engine that runs most of the
time.
John
 

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