Good Subaru dealer in Los Angeles area?

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Long story short-my wife is in LA, I am in central Ohio. This will be
the case until we both move to Seattle in February. She needs a car
(hers was totaled, currently driving a rental). We settled on a new
2005 or 2006 Impreza. She has little experience dealing with dealers;
I would like to select/negotiate a car for her long distance. Can
anyone suggest a Subaru dealer in the LA area who's not TOOOOO sleazy?
Someone you've personally had good experience with? Alternatively, I
could perhaps go to one of the 2 dealers here in central Ohio (both of
which I have reservations about) and order one through them which she
might pick up from an LA dealer. Probably not the best way to get the
best price. Any helpful thoughts appreciated.

TIA

David
 
dr.benway said:
Renick Subaru in Fullerton..
You don't see a lot of Subaru's in So Cal. Spent about 10 day there
this past winter and only saw 3-4 on the road and I drove several
hundred freeway miles in that time. In the PNW I can see that many
driving around town here and I live in a town of about 10k.

I would give thought to seeing if a dealer you are familar with could
sell you a car and have delivery in So Cal like in the above mentioned
dealer.

Mickey
 
Thanks for the replies, I'll check out the Fullerton suggestion. It
is amazing how many Subarus you see in the Seattle area. I see on the
Sub site there are 9 locations w/in 30 miles of Seattle, here in
Columbus there are 3 locations representing 2 dealerships, neither of
which I think much of (I actually went to one of these, Byers Subaru,
when I bought my last new car in 2003. I wanted to test drive a WRX
STI. The experience was so distasteful I went across town & bought an
EVO that same day). There are 5 dealerships w/in 30 miles of the SF
valley where my wife lives. An amazing fact, given the relative
populations of Seattle & LA. If anyone else has more thoughts on this
whole matter I'd like to hear them.

Thanks,

David
 
I meant to ask dr benway if he had a favorite sales person at Renick.
For some reason google groups doesn't appear to have a quote mode so
this may have been ambiguous in my last post...

Thanks

David
 
Try the Subaru dealer in 1000 Oaks. They sent a driver to pick me up at the
airport. Very courteous.

Chris
 
Can
anyone suggest a Subaru dealer in the LA area who's not TOOOOO sleazy?

I use Suby Specialties in Monrovia 626-358-4235 for repairs.
http://www.subyspecialties.com/

Steve (the owner) said next time I'll need to buy, he'll refer me
to semeone in Diamond Bar, who gives his customers good prices.
Give him a call, maybe he'll refer you as well.

Also, consider http://www.fitzmall.com/ -- they are in Maryland, but
their prices are good, and perhaps you can arrange the pick up in LA.

Finally, www.carmax.com may be a good option for you if you'll
consider a recent used Suby.

Cheers,
 
I don't know exactly what you mean by "a lot," but I see them regularly in
Orange County. Frank's Irvine Subaru, in Lake Forest, is the 4th or 5th
highest volume dealer in the US. That must mean something; for starters,
there are just a lot of cars in the greater LA area, and it's not quite the
same as trying to spot Subarus in Missoula, Montana, which I've done, where
they are a high percentage of all (read: compared to LA, very few) cars you
see.

Incidentally, I'd recommend Irvine Subaru--I've had good service experience
there.

HW
 
Long story short-my wife is in LA, I am in central Ohio.

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Car salesmen, much like sharks, can smell
blood in the water. Any sign of weakness and you are lunch. Car
salesmen are not your friends or buddies. Their job is to make as much
money as possible off of you.

I've never used Carsdirect.com, but I have used the information on
their site for the last three cars I've bought. Dealers are now so
tired of internet information, that they may not even argue with you
very much. You may decide to buy through Carsdirect.com or just use
the information to cut a deal. Carsdirect is nationwide, so they may
be able to help out your individual out of state situation.

<http://www.carsdirect.com/home>

Be careful to understand Destination Charge (usually around $500) on
carsdirect.com. The first MSRP you see as you navigate the site
(usually is lined out) is without Destination Charge. The next MSRP,
on the page with Net Cost, has Destination Charge included. Just
subtract the smaller from the larger MSRP to get the Destination
Charge. The Net Cost includes Destination.

Subtract Destination Charge from Net Cost to get your "final fair
offer" to the dealer. If they can't come close to this you may
just want to go with Carsdirect.com (again, I've never used them,
caveat emptor.)

Always bargain on price. Start below your final fair offer and expect
to be bumped three times. Sit through the charade of "I'll have to
see if my boss will accept this offer." They know making you
impatient makes you lose your good judgment. When they come back after
letting you stew say "I just love the peace and quiet here, I've
never get so much reading done at work." Bump your offer $300, then
$150 then $25. Obviously, you start $475 low. Never, ever, bargain on
monthly payments. They just add another year to the payments and,
violla, the price and profit just went way up. Bring a calculator with
you if you must, and you tell them what the monthly payments are given
amount financed, term (time) and interest rate. Car dealers can get
the difference between the credit rate the bank will give you and the
rate they can sell you on. Just say no. The frown I saw on the last
salesman's face when I told him, to the penny, what the payments
were, was priceless. I bought for cash in the end, anyway.

Offer to add in the Destination Charge separately. If the dealer says
that the Destination Charge is included, be very, very careful they
don't add it in again. This "accident" has happened four out of
the last four times I bought a car. I missed it once. The dealers
argued vehemently that they were right until they, belatedly, admitted
they made a mistake.

Once you negotiate price, you are still in great peril. You now have
to face the "Finance and Insurance" (F&I) guy. He will try to sell
you the extended warranty, fabric protection, Teflon(R) paint coating,
undercoating, death and casualty insurance (maybe "required" is you
finance). There are always new gimmicks, just watch for them. Decide
in advance what you want and stick to your guns.

The salesmen live in fear of not making sales commissions. The sales
manager lives in fear of not selling enough cars to justify their
salary (and commissions). The owner lives in fear of not making his
overhead. They are the ones who should be in fear of you and you
should be kicking their buts.

Just walk out if they offer you a bad deal. I've never had to walk
out of more than two dealerships in order to buy a car at a decent
price.

Good Luck
 
dr.benway said:
Renick Subaru in Fullerton..

I didn't like them. They treated me like an idiot when I went in to look
around.
Of course...I am a woman and get that kind of reception a lot of
places...none
of which I deal with again.

I went to World Imports in at the Ontario auto mall. Not exactly
in LA but not that far away. Dealt with a sales person named Sara...
she was great even if the dealership seemed to have trouble with
cash sales.

I also had a good experience with the sales staff at Timmons in Long
Beach.

AG
 
I meant to ask dr benway if he had a favorite sales person at Renick.
For some reason google groups doesn't appear to have a quote mode so
this may have been ambiguous in my last post...

Just don't send your wife in to see them.....friggin chauvinists <G>
 
Thanks for the continued input on this, very helpful. I agree about
the sales people being blood thirsty, I've bought a number of cars &
have had pretty good luck getting a good deal; I'm afraid this
situation just isn't going to be conducive to that. There's a good
chance we will just buy the car outright, I know from past experience
they'd prefer you finance through them so they can make $$$ on that
too. I actually am considering putting the car on my rewards
mastercard, paying it off on the next bill, so as to get the reward
points. Anyone ever done this? I'm guessing they'll like that even
less than a check...

David
 
"'Ive never used Carsdirect.com, but I have used the information on
their site for the last three cars I've bought..."

Thanks for the tip, I'll check them out.

David
 
I had an OK experience with Big Valley Subaru in Van Nuys. They're all
sleazy to some degree. Just come armed with info (invoice pricing, etc.) and
you're fine. I traded in a Ford Fuckus and got way more in trade value than
I thought it was worth (still reeked of brush fire, had problems with the
brakes, hadn't been washed in god knows how long...still got above blue
book). They have a decent inventory.
 
Thanks for the continued input on this, very helpful. I agree about
the sales people being blood thirsty, I've bought a number of cars &
have had pretty good luck getting a good deal; I'm afraid this
situation just isn't going to be conducive to that. There's a good
chance we will just buy the car outright, I know from past experience
they'd prefer you finance through them so they can make $$$ on that
too. I actually am considering putting the car on my rewards
mastercard, paying it off on the next bill, so as to get the reward
points. Anyone ever done this? I'm guessing they'll like that even
less than a check...

My boss does a lot of big ticket items that way. Call your credit
card company ahead of time (don't tell them you plan on paying it
right off) and ask for the name of someone at the company that
the dealership can call to confirm the transaction. I had to wait
3 days for my check to clear before I could pick up the car but
my boss was able to drive his off the lot when he put it on his
card.

AG
 
Thanks for the reply. Because of the rewards I pay everything I can
with this card, even utilities etc. I do always pay the card in full
(have yet to pay a cent in interest), but a call ahead might not be a
bad idea. My main concern is the dealer won't go for it since they'll
have to pay MC a fee. The last new car I bought in 2003 I wrote a
check; they called the bank & I drove the car home. I can see this
varying by the dealer, however. In this case my wife would be paying,
either with our card or from our checking; since she's the one who will
pick it up in LA. Wouldn't hurt either way to make sure the financial
institution in question got a heads up.

David
 
My main concern is the dealer won't go for it since they'll
have to pay MC a fee.

It is almost guaranteed that the dealer will not accept MC for the
full value of the car. They may accept it for downpayment, but
(unless you overpaid them a couple of thousands to begin with) there
is no way they'll just throw away $500 (2.5% of $20,000) of their
own profit.

Cheers,
 
Paul said:
It is almost guaranteed that the dealer will not accept MC for the
full value of the car. They may accept it for downpayment, but
(unless you overpaid them a couple of thousands to begin with) there
is no way they'll just throw away $500 (2.5% of $20,000) of their
own profit.

Cheers,
I used my Chase Subaru MC card for 5K of my purchase, just to get the
Subaru Bucks. They wouldn't go for more or multiple transactions.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan
 
I had a motorcycle dealer that got irate when I mentioned putting a
motorcycle on my charge card being it had a better interest rate than they
offered on the motorcycle. Started to call the credit card company to see
how they felt about one of their members not wanting to accept their card. I
ended up financing it through my credit union and giving them cash.

Blair
 

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