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village idiot

we are getting a forester xt but live in an area thats prone to winter
floods,we need to get to horses on a daily basis and would like to know what
depth of water is safe to ford [sorry to mention the last dirty word , but
i don't mean the car !!]
 
Hi!

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:56:39 +0000 (UTC), "village idiot" <village
we are getting a forester xt but live in an area thats prone to winter
floods,we need to get to horses on a daily basis and would like to know what
depth of water is safe to ford [sorry to mention the last dirty word , but
i don't mean the car !!]

I _don't_ know about the Forester specifically, the Ms. shies away
from even splashing thru mud puddles with hers ;-)
However in general I would limit water crossings to not more than
about axle deep with your Soobie, and that in clear water with a firm
bottom. I have crossed streams considerably deeper than that with my
old GL wagon, and it has scars to prove it too! Stalling, sinking into
mud, or finding that hidden rock in the middle of a ford isn't a whole
lot of fun.
If you really must cross deep water, your Forester will probably not
balk at crossings up to knee-deep or maybe even a bit more, however
you'll want to get out and walk (wade) thru first. Find a firm line
for both wheel tracks and check for hidden rocks, holes, and such.
Drive thru as slowly as possible w/o risking a stall; a large bow wake
can wet out engine electronics, and even result in your engine
aspirating water. Be prepared to pull your carpets afterwards, as some
water will almost certainly find it's way in, and you'll probably want
to check the fluid in your differential for water contamination as
well. Go carefully!
I'll mention one more option often overlooked by adventurous
offroaders, tho it probably won't apply to your needs. For that real
deep/fast/scary crossing, especially if you feel there is any
possibility of sucking in water (very bad), use a winch to pull the
vehicle across with the engine off. Once you get to the other side,
allow a few minutes for water to drain from the airbox and such,
perhaps pull the distributor cap and dry it with a paper towel, and it
should start right up. If you are concerned about the possibility of
water entering the intake (usually a closed throttle butterfly will
keep this from being a concern), stuff a wad of rags in the inlet
track before starting across, and turn the engine thru several
revolutions with a wrench on the crank bolt before trying to turn it
with the starter.
We've gotten vehicles across rivers where the water was over their
hoods using this routine, but it sure is a pain in the a__, and you'll
want dry laundry by the time you're done.

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101
 
Sounds to me like you need a really serious off-road vehicle, not a
soft-road car like the Forester. Get the Forester for normal driving, but
also get an old Dodge Power Wagon or similar for the dirty, wet stuff! ;-)

Tony Burns said:
Section 8-6 of your Owners manual describes in detail your requirements.

village said:
we are getting a forester xt but live in an area thats prone to winter
floods,we need to get to horses on a daily basis and would like to know what
depth of water is safe to ford [sorry to mention the last dirty word , but
i don't mean the car !!]
 
village idiot said:
we are getting a forester xt but live in an area thats prone to winter
floods,we need to get to horses on a daily basis and would like to know what
depth of water is safe to ford [sorry to mention the last dirty word , but
i don't mean the car !!]
fiord is correct not ford
and 10 or 12 inches of wather should be nothing to worry about
 
no way said:
village idiot said:
we are getting a forester xt but live in an area thats prone to winter
floods,we need to get to horses on a daily basis and would like to know what
depth of water is safe to ford [sorry to mention the last dirty word , but
i don't mean the car !!]
fiord is correct not ford
and 10 or 12 inches of wather should be nothing to worry about
water hahaha bad typing not spelling !!
 
no way said:
fiord is correct not ford
and 10 or 12 inches of wather should be nothing to worry about

OK, I'm missing something here, apparently. Please explain: the ground
clearance on the Forester is 7.5 inches. Subtract that amount from 10 and
you get 2.5, and from 12 you get 4.5. That's 2.5 or 4.5 inches higher than
the bottom of the car. Water won't get inside (especially given the latter
number)?

I'm not where I can apply a ruler to my car at the moment, so I'm only
guessing you may say, "Check the height of the bottom of the doors, or door
seal."

HW
 
Hi All!

fiord is correct not ford
and 10 or 12 inches of wather should be nothing to worry about

Only in Norway, and if ya can drive across one of _those_, I bow down
to you ;-)
And like I said; axle deep water. (~12 inches for the 26 inch diameter
Forester wheel.)

And HW asks:
Water won't get inside (especially given the latter number)?

Yep, it will eventually, but assuming all of your floor drain plugs
are in place it's not likely to be a problem 'til you get in above the
bottom of the door. Not even then on short exposure, or you'd get wet
every time you did the carwash thing. But at somewhere around that
depth, water can find new and creative entry points; shifter linkages,
side lights and reflectors, openings in the frame concealed by
interior trim, etc. This isn't really a problem as long as you make
the effort to let things dry out when you get home, but wet
carpet/padding left unattended gets stinky PDQ, and leads to
floorboard rust and other unsavory vehicular diseases.

BTW, if you _do_ try to ford the fiord, or play any other game that
results in getting salt ocean water on your car, wash it, wash it,
wash it, and wash it some more, or Mr Rust will have his way (he never
sleeps, ya know), and your shiny toy will become a rust-bucket faster
than you will believe. Trust me on this one :-(

ByeBye! S.

Steve Jernigan KG0MB
Laboratory Manager
Microelectronics Research
University of Colorado
(719) 262-3101
 
Thanks, Steve. You sound like the voice of experience.

As I contemplate any of the potential fates you describe (from too much high
water) for my beautiful new XT, it makes me cringe. I'm still wondering why
anyone with a need to ford that fjord would buy a Forester to do it. A
really serious off-road vehicle would be the more serviceable choice, IMHO.
But I'm not an accoomplished fjord forder.

HW
 
H. Whelply said:
OK, I'm missing something here, apparently. Please explain: the ground
clearance on the Forester is 7.5 inches. Subtract that amount from 10 and
you get 2.5, and from 12 you get 4.5. That's 2.5 or 4.5 inches higher than
the bottom of the car. Water won't get inside (especially given the latter
number)?

I took out my measuring tape. Distance to the floorboard is something
like 11" and the distance to the bottom of the door is ~14". The 7.5"
quoted for ground clearance might be the distance to the bottom of the
rear differential (looks like the lowest part).

-R.
 
My 2000 Forester has gone through ~20 inches of water with no problems. Go
sloooow and door seals must be in good conditions. The engine air intake is
very high, ~ 28-30 inches and has a water trap/drain for splashes. eddie
 
Only in Norway, and if ya can drive across one of _those_, I bow down
to you ;-)

Steve is correct

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ford
ford ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fôrd, frd)
n.
A shallow place in a body of water, such as a river, where one can cross by walking or riding on an
animal or in a vehicle.

tr.v. ford·ed, ford·ing, fords
To cross (a body of water) at a ford.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fiord
fjord or fiord ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fyôrd, fyrd)
n.
A long, narrow, deep inlet of the sea between steep slopes.

Also:
"Ford"
Mostly a p.o.s. :)


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