Country of origin

[Henry Paul]

The Outback is built in the U.S. I think the Legacy line is also.

 

[anon]

Can I make a polite request........

Could posters please state, at the BEGINNING of their posts, which
country they are from.

It's obvious that the majority of posters are from USA.... but I find it
exceedingly annoying that you all seem to believe that EVERYONE else is
also from USA.

I am from Australia, and I have seen posts here from UK and other
countries. But it can be extremely hard on occasions to keep track of
the information - especially regarding pricing, warranty details,
location of manufacturers, Octane ratings, etc, etc - with different
people from different countries all talking about their own countries.

For example, ALL Subarus sold in Australia are manufactured in Japan.
So when Australian readers are researching these forums for info and
help prior to buying an Aussie Subaru..... reading all these horror
stories about bad wheel bearings and assorted other problems does
nothing to persuade them to purchase a Subaru. But the fact is, most of
the posters complaining about such problems are from US, where the
vehicles are manufactured in US... obviously from defective
materials.... or perhaps defective labourers !!! Japanese built
vehicles don't seem to have these issues.

A simple AU, or US, or UK or whatever, perhaps in the subject or header,
so that we dont get so confused???

Just a thought. What do others think???

Cheers
Spinifex

91 Liberty (Australian Legacy) RS Turbo AWD Manual 2.0 T
85 Leone FWD 1.8 NA
01 Liberty AWD 2.0 NA

 

[enigma]

I agree completely. Especially the stupid comments about buying 04, 05 Model
year cars etc. Subaru changes its model year from August production, which
applies here too, yet the US seems to want to get 05 MY in the middle of
2004.
Fellow Melbourne Suby owner.

 

[Subie25L]

Sounds like a good idea to me too.

Jeff.
1998 Liberty RX Bilstein

 

[Don]

Sounds like a good idea to me too.

Jeff.
1998 Liberty RX Bilstein

Sounds good on the surface, but I think it would be impossible for
people to do that. Like when writing a technical NG (Mozilla, etc.)
to start by stating your OS and Moz version number. Many people
can't even remember to bottom post, AND to quote. And getting them
to be polite to strangers is another matter.

I think it would be an uphill battle, even if an important one.

Users could put it in their sig files, but then there are always
occasional newcomers that don't know the convention.

Don

 

[Ignignokt]

Just a thought. What do others think???

I think it's unneccesary, and I won't be doing it. Since you asked...

- Greg Reed

 

[Frank Logullo]

I think it's unneccesary, and I won't be doing it. Since you asked...

- Greg Reed

I agree. Besides you can tell where I'm from by my accent
Frank

 

[Bart]

I agree that country of origin is useful info...

Laughing...Virginia, USA, here...

I have a question about your comment re: the model year...I bought my
**2003** Forester in **June 2002**..so, what you said about the US
"wanting" the new model mid-year actually does happen in the US, right?

 

[Aaron M]

There has been plenty of discussion in here before about model years, etc.

<rant>

North America gets models 6 months after they are offered in the
Japanese market. For the first 6 months of production in Japan right
drive cars are produced. Then they add production of left drive
vehicles. A 2000 Impreza in Japan (and the other right drive
countries), is considered a 2001 in the US. Imprezas, WRXs, and
Forresters, and the Saabaru or Saab 9-2 (An Impreza rebadge that is
manufactured exclusivly for Sabb, a subsidiary of General Motors, who
owns 20% non-voting stock in Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. The parent
company of Subaru.) are shipped to the US from Japan. These vehicles
are all built on the same frame. Some US only options, are then
installed in port, such as sound systems, seats, alarm systems, etc.

The Baja, Legacy (Liberty in some parts of the world), and Outback are
produced for North America and some other regions at Subaru of Indiana
Automotive, Inc. (http://www.subaru-sia.com/). Likewise these vehicles
share the same frame. SIA will also be producing the new Subaru 7
passenger vehcile, which is also getting rebadged for Saab.

Having been a long time Subaru owner, I've owned, priced, and driven
vehicles made at both locations. Generally the paint seems better on
the cars made at SIA than the paint on models shipped over from Japan,
but that may be due to them being shipped over. Also, the majority of
parts for US manufactured Subaru's are imported from Japan. I about 95%
of the parts are imported from Japan. In the US, the car manufacturer
is required to list the percentage of foreign and domestic parts in a
vehicle.

One thing that varies between dealerships is the level of service you
get, and response from Subaru. In my case, since I'm in the US, Subaru
is Subaru of America, Inc. which was founded in 1968, and is now a
wholly-owned subsidary of Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. Even though it's
owned by them, they have to follow the laws of whatever country their in.

That is what some people found so shocking about the scandal at
Mitsubishi (I believe it was Mitsubishi) a year or so ago, when it was
discovered that they had covered up defect data regarding several models
to the Japanese people. Records in that case showed that those
problems had been acknowledged and dealt with in other countries, but no
in the Japanese market.

</rant>

 

[Dan J. S.]

Can I make a polite request........

Could posters please state, at the BEGINNING of their posts, which
country they are from.

It's obvious that the majority of posters are from USA.... but I find
it exceedingly annoying that you all seem to believe that EVERYONE
else is also from USA.

I am from Australia, and I have seen posts here from UK and other
countries. But it can be extremely hard on occasions to keep track of
the information - especially regarding pricing, warranty details,
location of manufacturers, Octane ratings, etc, etc - with different
people from different countries all talking about their own countries.

For example, ALL Subarus sold in Australia are manufactured in Japan.
So when Australian readers are researching these forums for info and
help prior to buying an Aussie Subaru..... reading all these horror
stories about bad wheel bearings and assorted other problems does
nothing to persuade them to purchase a Subaru. But the fact is, most
of the posters complaining about such problems are from US, where the
vehicles are manufactured in US... obviously from defective
materials.... or perhaps defective labourers !!! Japanese built
vehicles don't seem to have these issues.

A simple AU, or US, or UK or whatever, perhaps in the subject or
header, so that we dont get so confused???

Just a thought. What do others think???

Cheers
Spinifex

91 Liberty (Australian Legacy) RS Turbo AWD Manual 2.0 T
85 Leone FWD 1.8 NA
01 Liberty AWD 2.0 NA

Since when did Subaru build in the U.S.?

 

[Florian Feuser /FFF/]

The Outback is built in the U.S. I think the Legacy line is also.

The Outback was *invented* for the US...

florian

 

[anon]

florian..... I didnt know that.... thanx for the heads-up....

however, as mentioned before.... there don't seem to be too many non-US
posters having engineering / mechanical problems with their Japanese
manufactured vehicles

spinifex

 

[CompUser]

florian..... I didnt know that.... thanx for the heads-up....

however, as mentioned before.... there don't seem to be too many non-US
posters having engineering / mechanical problems with their Japanese
manufactured vehicles

Ah, so if we see a post inquiring about eng/mech
problems, we can safely assume it's a US poster
;-)

 

[Don]

Ah, so if we see a post inquiring about eng/mech
problems, we can safely assume it's a US poster
;-)

I have a problem with the nut on the steering wheel. ;-)

Don
Idaho, USA
Username munged by FixNews

 

[uglymoney]

Can I make a polite request........

Could posters please state, at the BEGINNING of their posts, which
country they are from.

It's obvious that the majority of posters are from USA.... but I find it
exceedingly annoying that you all seem to believe that EVERYONE else is
also from USA.

I am from the USA. I believe that EVERYONE else who writes in english
is from the USA. Australia is just another US owned province right?
Just like Canada. Sydney/LAX was only 7500 miles and 13 hours by air
the last time I visited. It takes me 13 hours to drive to Canada from
here. Same difference if your forget about the 4 hours it takes me to
get to LA through DIA..

I am from Australia, and I have seen posts here from UK and other
countries. But it can be extremely hard on occasions to keep track of
the information - especially regarding pricing, warranty details,
location of manufacturers, Octane ratings, etc, etc - with different
people from different countries all talking about their own countries.

For example, ALL Subarus sold in Australia are manufactured in Japan.
So when Australian readers are researching these forums for info and
help prior to buying an Aussie Subaru..... reading all these horror
stories about bad wheel bearings and assorted other problems does
nothing to persuade them to purchase a Subaru. But the fact is, most of
the posters complaining about such problems are from US, where the
vehicles are manufactured in US... obviously from defective
materials.... or perhaps defective labourers !!! Japanese built
vehicles don't seem to have these issues.

Exactly! Its only cars put together over here that have any problems
whatsoever. Its because our country sucks, our workers suck, our
usenet posters suck, our factories are crap and our car buyers are
morons.

Cars fall apart here because our country is such a shithole. Our
foreign policy is causing some real gaps in quality.

A simple AU, or US, or UK or whatever, perhaps in the subject or header,
so that we dont get so confused???

Who doesn't get confused? You don't matter to me. Do what the rest
of us do, and figure it out on your own, or ask for clarification.
You might or might not get it. Nobody is posting for you.

Just a thought. What do others think???

I think all the female posters should post a picture of themselves
with short shorts and tanktop and supply me with there phone number.

What do others think of that?

nate

 

[Henry Paul]

I made that same observation sometime ago and was attacked for not treating
my fellow countrymen fairly, blah blah blah. I guess its ok to make that
observation if you don't live in the U.S.? ;-)

 

[Jim Stewart]

I am from the USA. I believe that EVERYONE else who writes in english
is from the USA. Australia is just another US owned province right?
Just like Canada. Sydney/LAX was only 7500 miles and 13 hours by air
the last time I visited. It takes me 13 hours to drive to Canada from
here. Same difference if your forget about the 4 hours it takes me to
get to LA through DIA..

What I think is that everyone posting from Australia
should put a cute ascii art kangaroo at the beginning
of their post

 

[Bill Cotton]

Or maybe,GPS coordinate in the signature line

 

[Henry Paul]

Yeah I always wondered that myself............ I always got the impression
it was an Aussie design as they had an Aussie advertising it...........
Still, it really looks like a cool car. I didn't know it was a Subaru the
first time I saw one several years ago.

 

[enigma]

And what symbol for US residents?
-redneck?
-turkey with head up its arse?
-stars and stripes