Cost of 30K mile maintenace of Outback

Discussion in 'Subaru Outback' started by Adam Helberg, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. Adam Helberg

    Adam Helberg Guest

    Just got back from the dealer from a 30K mile maintenance work on a 2002 Outback
    Legacy, which had basically no problems. The cost came out to over $900 with taxes.
    It seems very expensive. I'd be interested to hear what others have paid for this
    service.

    Adam
     
    Adam Helberg, Feb 27, 2007
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  2. Adam Helberg

    Blair Baucom Guest

    I paid a little over $500 in St. Louis. I was not happy with the work. What
    did they do for $900?

    Blair
     
    Blair Baucom, Feb 28, 2007
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  3. Adam Helberg

    Todd H. Guest

    What all did it include? It's not uncommon for dealers to tack on
    goodies that aren't in the factory service schedule... $900 does
    sound pretty stiff for a 30k service.

    $510.55 is what a 30k service (service level C) goes for in suburban
    Chicago. Includes: Oil, filter, plugs, air/fuel filters, cooling
    system service top off fluids, lube susp and seering clean throttle
    body, service brakes, replace brake fluid adjust parking brake,
    automatic transaxle service, rotate tires, check tire pressure,
    inspect clutch lines, hoses, adjust clutch pedal free play, lube
    throttle linkage, inspect power steering hoses, adj drive belts,
    inspect cuirse control, front/rear bearings, manual tranny service,
    rear diff service.

    For $860 you get service level D, called for at 60k miles, which adds
    replacement of timing belt and cam belt tensioner.

    So for $900, if you got a new timing belt and timing belt tensioner,
    you got a decent reasonable price. But, those services were done
    unnecessarily early.



    Bes tRegards,
     
    Todd H., Feb 28, 2007
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  4. Adam Helberg

    Adam Helberg Guest

    Besides washing my car and giving me a rental:

    wheel alignment
    service and clean throttle body
    auto trans flush and change
    fuel filter
    spark plugs
    cooling system flush
    rotate tires and rebalance
    change air filter


    This was done in Orange County CA
    Adam
     
    Adam Helberg, Feb 28, 2007
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  5. Congratulations!!!
    You now know WHY Subaru owners HATE the dealers. Considering the $900 costs,
    this should have included 2 hours with a world-class prostitute in a high
    class hotel.
    If your going to get fucked for $900, you at least should get to enjoy it,
    and be a fine memory for a lifetime.
    This sounds like a regular "Subaru" fucking indeed. Wait till the car is out
    of warranty! Time to squeal like a pig....
     
    Porgy Tirebiter, Feb 28, 2007
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  6. Adam Helberg

    Adam Helberg Guest

    I didn't get a call girl but I did get my tires cleaned and the use of a Saturn Vue
    for a few hours.

    Adam
     
    Adam Helberg, Feb 28, 2007
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  7. Where can I get the list for service level D? I'm almost due for the 60K, and
    don't want the dealer to do more than the mfr recommends.

    I thought the timing belt wasn't changed until 105K.
     
    John Rethorst, Feb 28, 2007
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  8. Adam Helberg

    Todd H. Guest

    Service level D is everything I listed caringly for service level C
    plus
    replace timing belt
    inspect cam belt tensioner
    adjust engine idle speed (which is a joke, the ECU does this)
    adjust ignition timing (another worthless service)
    inspect spark plug wires (whoopee)


    Yeah, the timing belt is spec'd at 105k but in Chicago at least, they
    start looking pretty ratty around 60k anyway and are generally
    accepted to be changed at that interval. My prior vehicles all had
    60k intervalson the timing belt, and the 2.5 H4 is an interference
    engine...
     
    Todd H., Feb 28, 2007
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  9. Adam Helberg

    Todd H. Guest

    You're a little ray of sunshine.

    I'll share a bit of truth at my own expense. I actually ended up
    paying more (I believe due to parts markup) getting a 90k service done
    independently than I would have at the dealer. Same with a full brake
    job including premium rotors and pads. The dealer on these Subes is
    not always the worst possible deal. Now I do know that the mechanic
    I went to actually knew his ass from a hole in the ground unlike some
    of hte inexperienced folks at my closest dealer, but the truth of the
    matter is that Subarus are simply not cheap to maintain no matter how
    ya slice it. The parts cost will get ya, and the dealer is sometimes
    the only place to get some of the parts. THe independents will have
    to get it from them, then will add some overhead for the honor...

    Best REgards,
     
    Todd H., Feb 28, 2007
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  10. Adam Helberg

    nobody > Guest

    Was the air filter platinum?

    I've had most of those done as separate jobs over the last year, I had
    no history of what had been done in the previous 100K miles on my '00 OB.

    $70 Wheel alignment.
    $130 Auto trans flush/service
    $230 Fuel/air filters, cooling sys flush, plugs
    ____
    $430



    I can't see LA being much different from Seattle on prices.
     
    nobody >, Feb 28, 2007
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  11. Adam Helberg

    Ed Guest

    When I left California 12 years ago shop rates were already approaching
    $65/hour!!!!
     
    Ed, Feb 28, 2007
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  12. Adam Helberg

    Tcassette Guest

    Most of the items on your list are not required by the factory maintenance
    schedule at 30,000 miles (check your book). You need to specify that only
    the services required by the book are to be done. When you don't, they feel
    free to add in all sorts of high profit items. And Porgy as usual is too
    full of groat cakes: most dealers for any brand, plus the independents,
    will try to pad the service work order.
     
    Tcassette, Mar 1, 2007
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  13. Adam Helberg

    nobody > Guest

    Seattle runs from ~$55 to ~$105/hr. Price doesn't necessarily imply
    performance.
     
    nobody >, Mar 2, 2007
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  14. Adam Helberg

    Kurt Guest

    Anyone with any experience? I asked my local dealer about the 105K
    time frame (for an Imprezza WRX) and they said they haven't had any
    problems waiting that long.

    Most timing belts have a 60K replacement interval, even though on my
    older Toyotas there is NO recommended service interval.

    Also, time can be a big factor in timing belt life. My mother in law
    had a low mileage Corolla, 17 years before it hit 60K. I inspected the
    belt at about 15 years, looked fine. When it hit 60K two years later,
    the belt was all checked and cracked on the back side.

    As far as dealer charges, almost all dealers do far more than needed.
    And charge accordingly. Check your manual for what is recommended.
    Most folks will follow the 'severe' schedule. Check for things you can
    do yourself. No sense paying someone $100 an hour to open a few clips
    and replace the air filter. Besides, you might find that the
    replacement interval is longer than 30K on many of the parts.

    Probably the same with spark plugs (haven't changed them yet on the WRX,
    but they can't be any worse than a Porsche).
     
    Kurt, Mar 5, 2007
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