B9 Tribeca - no frameless windows :-(

Discussion in 'Subaru Tribeca' started by Andy Leszczynski, Feb 18, 2005.

  1. Just come back from Chicago auto show. Noted that B9 does not have the
    frameless windows. Quite disappointing. One of the last things which
    keeps me with Subaru (among: boxer engine, AWD) .

    2002 Legacy Outback
    2002 Impreza 2.5TS
     
    Andy Leszczynski, Feb 18, 2005
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  2. Andy Leszczynski

    Dumbjaw Guest

    What is it about frameless windows that you like so much? I've never even
    thought about it.
     
    Dumbjaw, Feb 18, 2005
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  3. Andy Leszczynski

    lkreh Guest

    I'm also curious why it's an issue with you. I like the look of
    frameless windows, but they're a security weakness and also create a
    structural issue on a larger vehicle like the B9.

    BTW, I saw the B9s at the Chicago Show this week, too. Aside from the
    odd front headlamp cover and gimmickee curved array of buttons on the
    center console, I liked it.

    -LK
     
    lkreh, Feb 18, 2005
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  4. Andy Leszczynski

    BrianW Guest

    Personally, the frameless windows are one thing I don't like about my
    OBW. With both my OBWs I've had to had the glass readjusted several
    times to keep the seal between the glass and the weatherstripping tight
    (wind noise). Having a frame on the door would eliminate the issue.

    I saw the Tribeca at the Philly Auto Show last week. I'm ambivalent
    about it. I think the grill is kind of ugly (reminscient of the 1970s
    Subarus), but the inside was nice. I don't really see it fitting into
    the Subaru product line all that well.

    As an aside, the local Subaru dealers offered a nice owner-loyalty
    reward. We got two free tickets to the show (normally $12 each), a free
    dinner buffet with sandwiches, soda, etc., and a free Subaru keychain.
    A nice touch. Subaru does a good job of providing nice little perks
    like this to members (at least in the Philly area, which is where
    Subaru USA HQ is based).
     
    BrianW, Feb 18, 2005
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  5. Andy Leszczynski

    WisedUp Guest

    Interesting . . . The frameless windows are one of the least-liked things about
    my 2005 Forester. During (or after) a rain or even after a heavy overnight dew,
    I have to remember to wipe the water drops from the projecting roof trim over
    the tops of the windows before opening the doors to prevent water from running
    down the inside of the windows.

    And frameless glass is always harder to slign properly in order to minimize wind
    noise.
     
    WisedUp, Feb 18, 2005
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  6. Andy Leszczynski

    Nicolaas Guest

    I saw that the estimated price for the B9 will start in the mid $30,000
    range.
    WOW! I can get a Honda Pilot with a Navigation system or DVD system for that
    price.
     
    Nicolaas, Feb 18, 2005
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  7. Andy Leszczynski

    Hallraker Guest

    True. But from what I've read, the B9 is supposed to compete with the Acura
    MDX and BMW X5. I haven't seen the vehicle in person to judge how it
    compares to those two. :)

    -Matt
     
    Hallraker, Feb 18, 2005
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  8. Andy Leszczynski

    Hallraker Guest

    Frameless windows do look nicer, but they are a bit old-fashioned. My
    driver's side window has always had a glass alignment issue, but it doesn't
    bother me that much. The B9 is supposed to compete with much higher priced
    vehicles, vehicles that are going to have low levels of interior noise, and
    the frameless windows can be noiser, especially if the glass is misaligned.

    I do agree though, it's another appealing Subaru quirk that I'll miss. Like
    jumpseats in the Brat. :)

    -Matt
     
    Hallraker, Feb 18, 2005
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  9. Andy Leszczynski

    kl Guest

    I just saw the TriBeCa at Pittsburgh auto show. The Subaru people I
    spoke with at the Pittsburgh show were clear that the TriBeCa on display
    was a pre-production model and that there would be some differences with
    the production model. I didn't press for details, and I don't remember
    if the model had window frames.

    As was posted by someone in Philly, Subaru also had a customer loyalty
    event in Pittsburgh, with a hospitality suite (sandwiches, veggies,
    cheese, cookies etc.) and admission to the show + keychain at the Subaru
    display. Very nice.

    kl
    2002 Outback Sedan VDC
     
    kl, Feb 19, 2005
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  10. <snip>

    well good luck then...
    ;-)
    I sure hope they redesign the entire car. From what I've seen of the car it's
    even uglier than a Murano

    florian
     
    Florian Feuser /FFF/, Feb 20, 2005
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    T Guest



    Honda Pilot? Go buy one then.


    TBerk
    not _meaning_ to be harsh, but damn.
     
    T, Feb 20, 2005
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  12. Andy Leszczynski

    Nicolaas Guest

    I wouldn't pay $30,000 for any sort of vehicle.


     
    Nicolaas, Feb 22, 2005
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  13. I sure am not happy with the looks (front end) of the Tribeca and some
    of the other show cars that Subaru has shown in the past. I hope this
    look is not passed on to the entire lineup. I am also concerned with
    the upcale pricing that will scare a lot of the loyal owners away.
     
    Jerre Bassler, Feb 23, 2005
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  14. Andy Leszczynski

    fooguy Guest

    I don't think telling him to go buy the Pilot is harsh at all. Honda's
    SUV platform has done *so well* (what with the CRVs bursting into
    flames and the Element eating it's timing belt). The comparable Subaru
    is always going to be more money because of Honda's volume. I traded in
    a 2002 Accord, my third Honda, for a 2004 WRX -- the Accord has a
    production run of about 150,000 a year, where Subaru sold about 15,000
    WRX sedans and wagons in 2004. After driving an AWD vehicle I don't
    think I'd ever go back.

    But I'd trade my frameless windows in for a second -- what a total
    PITA. The only complaint I have about my WRX is the frameless windows
    and the cupholders (Honda has those perfect in the Accord). If the 6
    disc changer were an MP3 changer I think I'd trade my 2004 in now for a
    new one just for that (truth be told I think my next will be an Outback
    turbo).

    While the B9 Tribeca isn't really my cup of tea, I look forward to see
    it parked next to the new VW Microbus at my local dealer (which sells
    both Subaru and VW) -- very similar look and feel.
     
    fooguy, Feb 28, 2005
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