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Carl 1 Lucky Texan

I'm not gonna knock ebay in general as I have used it several times, but
you might want to double check any item before you purchase it by
searching/asking some other Soob enthusiasts here, on the Yahoo groups,
www.usmb.net, www.nasioc.com , www.i-club.com and maybe
www.subaruoutback.org. Not sure about the 2004 but older OBS (93-'01
IIRC) share all but springs and rear struts with the other
imprezas.(note, there is some controversy about KYB rear struts, some
say use the AGX rears, KYB doesn't).

There are some folks who have tried the intakes for example and had bad
luck.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan
 
I see many aftermarkets sold on E-Bay.
I have a 2004 Impreza outback wagon.
Do all aftermarkets fit the impreza line?
Do they all have the same rear pipe and muffler installed?
Except the WRX of course.
Any suggested suppliers on E-Bay? Reputable companies that sell things that
fit right
with no welding or mods required?

Thanks
Please reply here.
 
www.sigmaautosalon.com




Carl 1 Lucky Texan said:
I'm not gonna knock ebay in general as I have used it several times, but
you might want to double check any item before you purchase it by
searching/asking some other Soob enthusiasts here, on the Yahoo groups,
www.usmb.net, www.nasioc.com , www.i-club.com and maybe
www.subaruoutback.org. Not sure about the 2004 but older OBS (93-'01
IIRC) share all but springs and rear struts with the other
imprezas.(note, there is some controversy about KYB rear struts, some
say use the AGX rears, KYB doesn't).

There are some folks who have tried the intakes for example and had bad
luck.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan
 
Summary of Research: DRLs are Proven Effective
DRLs, at sufficient levels of intensity, increase visual contrast between
vehicles and their background. Various studies have shown that DRLs can
improve the noticeability and detectability of vehicles in the central and
peripheral fields of view. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,
Public Health Reports , Vol. 110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May,
1995); Allen, J. M., Strickland, J., Ward, B., and Siegel, A.: Daytime
headlights and position on the highway. Am J Optometry 46: 33--36 (1969);
Attwood, D. A.: Daytime running lights project, IV: Two-lane passing
performance as a function of headlight intensity and ambient illumination.
Technical Report RSU 76/1. Defense and Civil Institute of Environmental
Medicine, Downsview, Ontario, Canada, 1976; Attwood, D. A.: Daytime running
lights project, II: Vehicle detection as a function of headlight use and
ambient illumination. Technical Report RSU 75/2. Defense and Civil Institute
of Environmental Medicine, Downsview, Ontario, Canada, 1975; Horberg, U.:
Running light--twilight conspicuity and distance judgement. Report 215.
Department of Psychology, University of Uppsala, Sweden, 1977; Horberg, U.,
and Rumar, K.: Running lights--conspicuity and glare. Report 178. Department
of Psychology, University of Uppsala, Sweden, 1975; Kirkpatrick, M., Baker,
C. C., and Heasly, C. C.: A study of daytime running lights design factors.
(DOT HS 807 193). National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
Washington, DC, 1987.; Ziedman, K., Burger, W., and Smith R.: Evaluation of
the conspicuity of daytime running lights. (DOT HS 807 609). National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Washington, DC, 1990.

International Studies
Andersson, K., Nilsson, G., and Salusjarvi, M.: The effect of recommended
and compulsory use of vehicle lights on road accidents in Finland. Report
102A. National Road and Traffic Research Institute, Linkoping, Sweden, 1976.
A study in Finland conducted between 1968 and 1974 found that DRLs, when
required on rural roads in the winter, were associated with a 21-percent
reduction in daytime multiparty crash events (involving more than one motor
vehicle or motor vehicles colliding with pedestrians or pedalcyclists).

Andersson, K., and Nilsson, G.: The effect on accidents of compulsory use of
running lights during daylight hours in Sweden. Report 208A. National Road
and Traffic Research Institute, Linkoping, Sweden, 1981.
In Sweden, a study based on 2 years of pre-law and 2 years of post-law data
reported and 11-percent reduction in multiparty daytime crashes subsequent
to the DRL law.

Vaaje, T.: Kjorelys om dagen reducerer ulykkestallene. Arbetsdokument
15.8.1986. Transportokonomisk institutt, Postboks 6110 Etterstad, N-0602
Oslo 6, Norway, 1986.
A study in Norway published in Norwegian and reviewed by Koornstra found a
14-percent drop in multiparty crashes prior to the law, during the 1980-85
period when voluntary DRL use was climbing.

Elvik, R.: The effects on accidents of compulsory use of daytime running
lights for cars in Norway. Accid Anal Prev 25: 383-398 (1993).
A study in Norway, covering the period 1980 to 1990, examined the effect of
the country's DRL law, which applied to new cars in 1985 and to all cars
beginning in 1988. DRL use was estimated to be about 30-35 percent in
1980-81, 60-65 percent in 1984-85, and 90-95 percent in 1989-90, so, as in
the earlier Scandinavian studies, only partial implementation of DRLs was
assessed. There was a statistically significant 10-percent decline in
daytime multiple-vehicle crashes associated with DRLs in this study,
excluding rear-end collisions, which increased by 20 percent. For all
daytime crashes involving multiple parties, there was a statistically
significant 15-percent reduction associated with DRLs in the summer but not
in the winter. No significant effects of DRLs were found for collisions
involving pedestrians or motorcyclists.

Hansen, L. K.: Daytime running lights in Denmark--Evaluation of the safety
effect. Danish Council of Road Safety Research, Copenhagen, 1993; Hansen, L.
K.: Daytime running lights: Experience with compulsory use in Denmark. Fersi
Conference, Lille, 1994.
Two studies evaluating Denmark's 1990 DRL law have been completed, one that
assessed short-term effects, the other looking at longer term effects.
Results of these two studies were quite consistent. There was a small
reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes (7 percent) in the first year
and 3 months the law was in effect, with one type of DRL-relevant crash
(left turn in front of oncoming vehicle) reduced by 37 percent. In the
second study, which covered 2 years and 9 months of the law, there was a
6-percent reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes, and a 34-percent
reduction in left-turn crashes. There was a small reduction in motor
vehicle-pedalcyclist collisions (4 percent) but a statistically significant
increase (16 percent) in motor vehicle-pedestrian collisions.

North American Studies
Some DRL critics have attempted to undermine the unequivical results of
international studies on the grounds that driving conditions in Scandinavian
countries are not comparable to North American driving conditions. The
following studies utterly refute this assertion

Cantilli, E. J.: Accident experience with parking lights as running lights.
Highway Research Record Report No. 32. National Research Council,
Transportation Research Board, Washington, DC, 1970.
In the United States, a small-scale fleet study conducted in the 1960s found
an 18-percent lower daytime, multiple-vehicle crash rate for DRL-equipped
vehicles.

Stein, H. S.: Fleet experience with daytime running lights in the United
States. Technical Paper 851239. Society of Automotive Engineers, Warrendale,
PA. 1985.
In a much larger fleet study conducted in the 1980s, more than 2,000
passenger vehicles in three fleets were equipped with DRLs.

One fleet operated in Connecticut, another in several States in the
Southwest, and the third operated throughout the United States. A 7-percent
reduction was found in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes in the DRL-equipped
vehicles compared with control vehicles.

Aurora, H., et al.: Effectiveness of daytime running lights in Canada. TP
12298 (E). Transport Canada, Ottawa, 1994.
In a study in Canada comparing 1990 model year vehicles (required to have
DRLs) with 1989 vehicles, a statistically significant 11-percent reduction
in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes other than rear-end impacts was
estimated. This estimate was adjusted to take into account the fact that
about 29 percent of 1989 vehicles were fitted with DRLs. Collisions
involving pedestrians, pedalcyclists, motorcyclists, and heavy trucks and
buses were not included in this study.

Sparks, G. A., et al.: The effects of daytime running lights on crashes
between two vehicles in Saskatchewan: a study of a government fleet. Accid
Anal. Prev 25: 619-625 (1991).
In another Canadian study, crashes of vehicles with and without DRLs in a
government fleet in Saskatchewan were compared with a random sample of
crashes involving vehciles without DRLs. The estimated reduction in daytime
two-vehicle crashes was 15 percent. When the analysis was limited to
two-vehicle collisions most likely to be affected by DRLs--involving
vehicles approaching from the front or side--the estimated reduction was 28
percent.

Society of Automotive Engineers Inc., Automotive Engineering Vol. 102 ; No.
8 ; Pg. 35; ISSN: 0098-2571 (August, 1994).
In 1994 Avis, Inc. announced the results of a traveler-safety study
analyzing the incidence and degree of damage to cars equipped with daytime
running lights; the study showed a significantly greater degree of damage to
those without daytime running lights (DRLs). Those equipped with DRLs have
their headlights on at all times and are more visible to other drivers.
During the day, they are on at an 80% power level; in the dark they operate
at 100%.

Damage severity in the non-DRL group (measured in terms of cost) was 69%
greater than that of the DRL-equipped fleet. Only the non-DRL vehicles
experienced damage in excess of $15,000. The Avis study involved 1500 cars
with DRLs, and 1500 without, representing approximately 29,000 rentals in
eight cities in Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, and
Washington.

Summary of the Studies
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol.
110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
In summary, although the studies of DRLs have differed in design, analysis
techniques, and outcome measures, the later studies are largely in
accordance with the earlier ones, indicating that the overall effect of DRLs
on motor vehicle crashes is positive.

Duration of DRL Effects
An often-used anti-DRL argument is that the positive effects of DRLs will
erode over time as the public becomes accustomed to their use on the
roadways. The following analysis proves this argument to be fallacious.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol.
110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
The early and later DRL studies have shed light on concerns about the
duration of DRL effects and the possibility of negative effects of DRLs on
some road users. It has been suggested that when DRLs are first introduced
into some part of the vehicle population, positive crash reduction effects
will be found only because DRLs are new and unique and the vehicles that
have them stand out from those that do not. Once people get used to seeing
vehicles with DRLs, it is conjectured, their effects will diminish, and, if
all vehicles have them, their noticeability will be reduced or drivers will
come to ignore the extra information.

All three of the early Scandinavian studies examined the effects of DRLs
over a period of several years when DRL use was increasing, and DRL effects
were estimated in Sweden and Finland when DRL use was nearly 100 percent.
Thus to the extent that novelty or habitation effects occur, the effects of
DRLs in the early Scandinavian studies were still positive over time and
with close to 100 percent use. The later studies also suggest that the
initial positive effects of DRLs do not dissipate over time. The reductions
in multiple-vehicle crashes found in the Denmark studies, based on
experience during the first 15 months of the law and then extended to
include the first 33 months, were very similar. This similarity led the
author to onclude that the effect was a permanent one and not due to the
novelty of DRLs. In the study in Norway, the reduction in daytime
multiple-vehicle crashes was maintained during the 3 years in which DRLs
were required for all vehicles and use was close to 100 percent.

Effect of DRLs on Motorcyles
Another anti-DRL argument is that their use in automobiles will negate the
positive effects of motorcycles operating with their lights on. The
following studies indicate that this argument has little statistical weight.

The effect of DRLs on motorcycle crashes has been studied in Denmark and
Norway, where daytime lights were required for motorcyclists prior to the
DRL law for passenger vehicles. In the study in Norway, a 4-percent
increase, not statistically significant, was found for motorcyclist crashes.
In Hansen's evaluation of Denmark's law, daytime multiple-vehicle crashes
involving motorcycles were unchanged, but nighttime and single-vehicle
daytime motorcycle crashes decreased over this period, leading Hansen to
conclude that there might be a "minor negative impact" of DRLs on motorcycle
crashes.

Costs of DRLs
One the most foolish arguments raised against DRLs is that they are
expensive to implement and decrease fuel economy. This argument is summary
dismissed by the facts cited below.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol.
110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
DRL costs are low, so even very modest crash reduction capabilities would be
cost effective. For example, according to General Motors, there is a minimal
wiring cost in converting to DRLs, and a fraction of a mile fuel penalty
(about $ 3 per year for the average driver).
 
Thank you Alan; Hopes this stops the "I know better people" I knew Canada
and I thought General Motors in this country did a comprehensive study years
ago but, did not realize the magnitude of the work preformed elsewhere. I
personally think it saves many lives and I am glad I have them. thanks
again. eddie
 
How does this relate to an Aftermarket exhaust?

Alan said:
Summary of Research: DRLs are Proven Effective
DRLs, at sufficient levels of intensity, increase visual contrast between
vehicles and their background. Various studies have shown that DRLs can
improve the noticeability and detectability of vehicles in the central and
peripheral fields of view. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,
Public Health Reports , Vol. 110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May,
1995); Allen, J. M., Strickland, J., Ward, B., and Siegel, A.: Daytime
headlights and position on the highway. Am J Optometry 46: 33--36 (1969);
Attwood, D. A.: Daytime running lights project, IV: Two-lane passing
performance as a function of headlight intensity and ambient illumination.
Technical Report RSU 76/1. Defense and Civil Institute of Environmental
Medicine, Downsview, Ontario, Canada, 1976; Attwood, D. A.: Daytime running
lights project, II: Vehicle detection as a function of headlight use and
ambient illumination. Technical Report RSU 75/2. Defense and Civil Institute
of Environmental Medicine, Downsview, Ontario, Canada, 1975; Horberg, U.:
Running light--twilight conspicuity and distance judgement. Report 215.
Department of Psychology, University of Uppsala, Sweden, 1977; Horberg, U.,
and Rumar, K.: Running lights--conspicuity and glare. Report 178. Department
of Psychology, University of Uppsala, Sweden, 1975; Kirkpatrick, M., Baker,
C. C., and Heasly, C. C.: A study of daytime running lights design factors.
(DOT HS 807 193). National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
Washington, DC, 1987.; Ziedman, K., Burger, W., and Smith R.: Evaluation of
the conspicuity of daytime running lights. (DOT HS 807 609). National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Washington, DC, 1990.

International Studies
Andersson, K., Nilsson, G., and Salusjarvi, M.: The effect of recommended
and compulsory use of vehicle lights on road accidents in Finland. Report
102A. National Road and Traffic Research Institute, Linkoping, Sweden, 1976.
A study in Finland conducted between 1968 and 1974 found that DRLs, when
required on rural roads in the winter, were associated with a 21-percent
reduction in daytime multiparty crash events (involving more than one motor
vehicle or motor vehicles colliding with pedestrians or pedalcyclists).

Andersson, K., and Nilsson, G.: The effect on accidents of compulsory use of
running lights during daylight hours in Sweden. Report 208A. National Road
and Traffic Research Institute, Linkoping, Sweden, 1981.
In Sweden, a study based on 2 years of pre-law and 2 years of post-law data
reported and 11-percent reduction in multiparty daytime crashes subsequent
to the DRL law.

Vaaje, T.: Kjorelys om dagen reducerer ulykkestallene. Arbetsdokument
15.8.1986. Transportokonomisk institutt, Postboks 6110 Etterstad, N-0602
Oslo 6, Norway, 1986.
A study in Norway published in Norwegian and reviewed by Koornstra found a
14-percent drop in multiparty crashes prior to the law, during the 1980-85
period when voluntary DRL use was climbing.

Elvik, R.: The effects on accidents of compulsory use of daytime running
lights for cars in Norway. Accid Anal Prev 25: 383-398 (1993).
A study in Norway, covering the period 1980 to 1990, examined the effect of
the country's DRL law, which applied to new cars in 1985 and to all cars
beginning in 1988. DRL use was estimated to be about 30-35 percent in
1980-81, 60-65 percent in 1984-85, and 90-95 percent in 1989-90, so, as in
the earlier Scandinavian studies, only partial implementation of DRLs was
assessed. There was a statistically significant 10-percent decline in
daytime multiple-vehicle crashes associated with DRLs in this study,
excluding rear-end collisions, which increased by 20 percent. For all
daytime crashes involving multiple parties, there was a statistically
significant 15-percent reduction associated with DRLs in the summer but not
in the winter. No significant effects of DRLs were found for collisions
involving pedestrians or motorcyclists.

Hansen, L. K.: Daytime running lights in Denmark--Evaluation of the safety
effect. Danish Council of Road Safety Research, Copenhagen, 1993; Hansen, L.
K.: Daytime running lights: Experience with compulsory use in Denmark. Fersi
Conference, Lille, 1994.
Two studies evaluating Denmark's 1990 DRL law have been completed, one that
assessed short-term effects, the other looking at longer term effects.
Results of these two studies were quite consistent. There was a small
reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes (7 percent) in the first year
and 3 months the law was in effect, with one type of DRL-relevant crash
(left turn in front of oncoming vehicle) reduced by 37 percent. In the
second study, which covered 2 years and 9 months of the law, there was a
6-percent reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes, and a 34-percent
reduction in left-turn crashes. There was a small reduction in motor
vehicle-pedalcyclist collisions (4 percent) but a statistically significant
increase (16 percent) in motor vehicle-pedestrian collisions.

North American Studies
Some DRL critics have attempted to undermine the unequivical results of
international studies on the grounds that driving conditions in Scandinavian
countries are not comparable to North American driving conditions. The
following studies utterly refute this assertion

Cantilli, E. J.: Accident experience with parking lights as running lights.
Highway Research Record Report No. 32. National Research Council,
Transportation Research Board, Washington, DC, 1970.
In the United States, a small-scale fleet study conducted in the 1960s found
an 18-percent lower daytime, multiple-vehicle crash rate for DRL-equipped
vehicles.

Stein, H. S.: Fleet experience with daytime running lights in the United
States. Technical Paper 851239. Society of Automotive Engineers, Warrendale,
PA. 1985.
In a much larger fleet study conducted in the 1980s, more than 2,000
passenger vehicles in three fleets were equipped with DRLs.

One fleet operated in Connecticut, another in several States in the
Southwest, and the third operated throughout the United States. A 7-percent
reduction was found in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes in the DRL-equipped
vehicles compared with control vehicles.

Aurora, H., et al.: Effectiveness of daytime running lights in Canada. TP
12298 (E). Transport Canada, Ottawa, 1994.
In a study in Canada comparing 1990 model year vehicles (required to have
DRLs) with 1989 vehicles, a statistically significant 11-percent reduction
in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes other than rear-end impacts was
estimated. This estimate was adjusted to take into account the fact that
about 29 percent of 1989 vehicles were fitted with DRLs. Collisions
involving pedestrians, pedalcyclists, motorcyclists, and heavy trucks and
buses were not included in this study.

Sparks, G. A., et al.: The effects of daytime running lights on crashes
between two vehicles in Saskatchewan: a study of a government fleet. Accid
Anal. Prev 25: 619-625 (1991).
In another Canadian study, crashes of vehicles with and without DRLs in a
government fleet in Saskatchewan were compared with a random sample of
crashes involving vehciles without DRLs. The estimated reduction in daytime
two-vehicle crashes was 15 percent. When the analysis was limited to
two-vehicle collisions most likely to be affected by DRLs--involving
vehicles approaching from the front or side--the estimated reduction was 28
percent.

Society of Automotive Engineers Inc., Automotive Engineering Vol. 102 ; No.
8 ; Pg. 35; ISSN: 0098-2571 (August, 1994).
In 1994 Avis, Inc. announced the results of a traveler-safety study
analyzing the incidence and degree of damage to cars equipped with daytime
running lights; the study showed a significantly greater degree of damage to
those without daytime running lights (DRLs). Those equipped with DRLs have
their headlights on at all times and are more visible to other drivers.
During the day, they are on at an 80% power level; in the dark they operate
at 100%.

Damage severity in the non-DRL group (measured in terms of cost) was 69%
greater than that of the DRL-equipped fleet. Only the non-DRL vehicles
experienced damage in excess of $15,000. The Avis study involved 1500 cars
with DRLs, and 1500 without, representing approximately 29,000 rentals in
eight cities in Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, and
Washington.

Summary of the Studies
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol.
110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
In summary, although the studies of DRLs have differed in design, analysis
techniques, and outcome measures, the later studies are largely in
accordance with the earlier ones, indicating that the overall effect of DRLs
on motor vehicle crashes is positive.

Duration of DRL Effects
An often-used anti-DRL argument is that the positive effects of DRLs will
erode over time as the public becomes accustomed to their use on the
roadways. The following analysis proves this argument to be fallacious.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol.
110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
The early and later DRL studies have shed light on concerns about the
duration of DRL effects and the possibility of negative effects of DRLs on
some road users. It has been suggested that when DRLs are first introduced
into some part of the vehicle population, positive crash reduction effects
will be found only because DRLs are new and unique and the vehicles that
have them stand out from those that do not. Once people get used to seeing
vehicles with DRLs, it is conjectured, their effects will diminish, and, if
all vehicles have them, their noticeability will be reduced or drivers will
come to ignore the extra information.

All three of the early Scandinavian studies examined the effects of DRLs
over a period of several years when DRL use was increasing, and DRL effects
were estimated in Sweden and Finland when DRL use was nearly 100 percent.
Thus to the extent that novelty or habitation effects occur, the effects of
DRLs in the early Scandinavian studies were still positive over time and
with close to 100 percent use. The later studies also suggest that the
initial positive effects of DRLs do not dissipate over time. The reductions
in multiple-vehicle crashes found in the Denmark studies, based on
experience during the first 15 months of the law and then extended to
include the first 33 months, were very similar. This similarity led the
author to onclude that the effect was a permanent one and not due to the
novelty of DRLs. In the study in Norway, the reduction in daytime
multiple-vehicle crashes was maintained during the 3 years in which DRLs
were required for all vehicles and use was close to 100 percent.

Effect of DRLs on Motorcyles
Another anti-DRL argument is that their use in automobiles will negate the
positive effects of motorcycles operating with their lights on. The
following studies indicate that this argument has little statistical weight.

The effect of DRLs on motorcycle crashes has been studied in Denmark and
Norway, where daytime lights were required for motorcyclists prior to the
DRL law for passenger vehicles. In the study in Norway, a 4-percent
increase, not statistically significant, was found for motorcyclist crashes.
In Hansen's evaluation of Denmark's law, daytime multiple-vehicle crashes
involving motorcycles were unchanged, but nighttime and single-vehicle
daytime motorcycle crashes decreased over this period, leading Hansen to
conclude that there might be a "minor negative impact" of DRLs on motorcycle
crashes.

Costs of DRLs
One the most foolish arguments raised against DRLs is that they are
expensive to implement and decrease fuel economy. This argument is summary
dismissed by the facts cited below.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol.
110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
DRL costs are low, so even very modest crash reduction capabilities would be
cost effective. For example, according to General Motors, there is a minimal
wiring cost in converting to DRLs, and a fraction of a mile fuel penalty
(about $ 3 per year for the average driver).
 

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