2012 Subaru Impreza Retains $17,495 Base Price

Discussion in 'Subaru Impreza' started by kaboom, Aug 20, 2011.

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    kaboom Guest

    kaboom, Aug 20, 2011
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    Larry Weil Guest

    Tje thing that bugs me about the new Impreza is that while it gets
    better gas mileage than the previous Impreza, it requires the use of
    synthetic oil. I wonder if anyone has worked the numbers to see if the
    increased cost of every oil change cancels the savings from the better
    gas mileage?
     
    Larry Weil, Aug 20, 2011
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    Hachiroku Guest

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    Big Jim Guest

    You should be using synthetic oil anyway. Go to Walmart and get 5
    quarts for under $20. Get a Supertech filter do it yourself and youre
    still cheaper than a garage plus you know the job was done right.
     
    Big Jim, Aug 20, 2011
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    Wiess Guest

    Why should synthetic oil be used? Is this what is specified in the
    manual?


     
    Wiess, Aug 20, 2011
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  6. Is that the new 2.5l with the timing chain? maybe that has something
    to do with it?

    Also, did the oil change interval lengthen in the manual with the
    synth-oil requirement? That might hel pmitigate some of the xtra cost.
     
    1 Lucky Texan, Aug 20, 2011
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    Big Jim Guest

    The only qualification to be a car designer today is to be a follower
    and have no style. The Outback has been ruined and now the impreza
    has the same front and side profile as every nissan, toyota etc.
     
    Big Jim, Aug 20, 2011
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    Big Jim Guest

    First things first- if you lease a car use the cheap oil. If you keep
    a car for a long while synthetic has several advantages- 1. handles
    higher heat 2. flows in colder temps 3. better lubrication 4, higher
    mpgs. I havent seen the new manual and likely wont as my next car
    won't be a Subaru based on designs alone. It Took how long for them
    lto lose the #%@^#@ timing belt!

     
    Big Jim, Aug 20, 2011
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    kaboom Guest

    **Well, I was shootin' for a 2012 Impreza, guess not. Subaru has a
    lead over the others in that 1. I like them, 2. I have $500 in Subaru
    bucks to go toward a new purchase or lease and 3. If I lease, they'll
    also pay for the first month. A few weeks back, Subaru sent me a
    letter saying that there was a strong possibility that they wouldn't
    have some of the models I might be looking for so I can also extend my
    lease and they'll give me some goodies in case I have to do that.

    Frankly, I don't want the vehicle anymore, it's too long in the tooth
    for a lease. I'm sick of this fucking shitty interior. It undermines
    the fact that the car itself has been fantastic. I've spent over 3
    years making sure that the car stayed minty fresh and, even though it
    looks freakin' great for +3, it's going to go downhill...starting with
    my Mom backing into it yesterday morning. Then, she left and didn't
    say a word to me. When I went to her work place to say: Uh, you hit my
    car. She replied cheerily, Yea, so? Clearly she does not understand
    the term: Lease.

    I'm thinking of buying so she can run into my car with impunity.

    kaboomie
     
    kaboom, Aug 20, 2011
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    kaboom Guest

    **But But But, the Impreza has "POWERFUL WHEEL ARCHES!"



    If the Autoblog in-depth story on the Impreza is true, it really has
    been improved. Aside from a long list of things, I liked this:

    "The driving experience should be improved because of the car's
    stiffer body and wider track, expanded by a half-an-inch in front and
    0.7-inch in back, and refinements like the stronger components, a new
    stiffening crossmember up front and pillow-ball bushings in the
    double-wishbone rear suspension from the STI. Spend on the upper trims
    and Subaru adds different springs in the front dampers and a rear
    stabilizer bar."
     
    kaboom, Aug 20, 2011
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    Hachiroku Guest


    You should want your mother to have peace of mind!
     
    Hachiroku, Aug 22, 2011
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    basia Guest


    Same price, much reduced torque and horsepower
    from way smaller engine? Sounds like they're
    after fools.

    Basia
     
    basia, Aug 22, 2011
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    kaboom Guest

    **Well, I guess I won't buy one now because I would be a fool. Better
    interior, sportier ride, better gas mileage be damned. I needed that
    170hp to get me the 1.5 miles to work and back gosh darn it!
     
    kaboom, Aug 22, 2011
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    basia Guest


    I guess Subaru is trying to tap into the market
    for underpowered cars. Underpowered cars with
    sportier rides, better interiors, etc.

    It is a big competitive market. It remains to
    be seen how deep of a market for an AWD vehicle.

    People in mountainous regions- traditional Subaru
    bastions, will likely not buy this new Impreza.

    So it is essentially a bet on flat-landers.
    With plenty of incentives it can work, probably.

    Basia
     
    basia, Aug 23, 2011
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    AD Guest

    Why? Some gullible folk won't pay extra for wrx
    and will slug up the hill in a normally breathing impreza.
    Basically you don't want to slug you'd pay for wrx you
    want to be a fuel sipper you stay low with this basic model.
    Mind you, the torque peak arrives earlier on 2.0 than on the outgoing
    2.5
    and I hated the old 2.5 slug with my whole heart. Soooo slow to spin
    up.

    I like how the new car looks even compared to 2005 impreza.

    Heck, Basia, you haven't even driven the car.
    323 (Protege) looked even blander on paper but it was hoot to drive.
    Celica also is not much at 122 but with a single lightweight pilot it
    was probably a blast in the twisties.

    With the 2.3 gallon reduction in gas tank capacity FHI needed
    that improvement in the mileage. I wonder if wrx and sti would
    share the new puny gas tank. They probably will and that'd be a pity.
    I hear the sound of subaru plonking the spare tire next to fix the gas
    tank issue
    in the next installment :-[

    There are three kinds of lies: lies, gross lies and car specs.
     
    AD, Aug 23, 2011
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    basia Guest


    Nothing in between- that's the problem.


    It may be a bit more "free-revving" but longer stroke
    engines are generally not of such nature, that's
    what they did to the 2.0L - made it a longer stroker.

    I'm sceptical.

    They should offer a choice of engines, like a 2.0,
    and a 2.5, but the CVT is probably a weak one
    (supposedly smaller version of the the Legacy's)
    so can't handle more torque.

    Bad. I don't like what they are doing to the Impreza,
    turning what just a few years ago was a relatively fun
    to drive car a fun car into some 'commuter.'

    Why not a Civic, or Corolla then, or the upcoming
    Prius C (City) Hatch, it looks so sexy, and promises
    to be the cheapest hybrid.

    Basia


     
    basia, Aug 23, 2011
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    kaboom Guest

    **150hp is underpowered? I'm constantly reading how people think the
    engine in my Impreza now is a slug, do you think they are talking
    about the automatic? I have a 5 speed and don't think it's even
    remotely sluggish. I will say that I understand you're peeved because
    Subaru is going all middle-America milquetoast with their vehicles.
    Trying to broaden its appeal perhaps?I don't disagree. I loved my 2005
    Impreza wagon and I wish I still had it. It was fun and also had fewer
    HP than my current Impreza which I like a skosh less (crappy interior
    design-wise and quality-wise).
    **I live in a hilly region that gets tons of snow. I'm surrounded by
    Subarus now and will most likely continue to be surrounded by even the
    new 2012s. In my area, however, I think that Hyundai is giving them a
    run for their money and I say: good. Hopefully, this leads to
    improvement.
    **I don't know about Subaru's rep outside of New England. I know that
    here in NE, they are gold.
     
    kaboom, Aug 24, 2011
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    basia Guest


    We'll have to wait and see.

    It may be adequate with a manual transmission
    on flat or moderatly hilly terrain.

    In the mountains of Colorado, Sierra Nevada,
    or Cascades, where many if not most US Subarus
    find their home, it will not be optimal.

    I am absolutely sure it'll have to be revved
    a lot. With AWD 2012 Impreza will be a fairly
    heavy 3000lb vehicle, while top power will
    be coming at a high 6200 rpms.

    A slightly larger, say 2.2L variant of the
    engine could have been much better. Maybe
    they'll offer a bigger engine later on, if
    the CVT is not an obstacle (?).

    Subaru probably has direct injection in mind
    for the future, and for this market segment,
    and that is why they settled for a relatively
    small displacement engine.

    Direct injection is not a perfect technology,
    though. Nasty carbon deposits are known to form,
    diminishing performance, and requiring periodic
    cleaning of intake valves. Larger oil capacities
    are also needed as unburnt gasoline is known to
    dilute engine oil in these engines. Synthetic oil
    may be needed(?).

    Hmmm, maybe I am just getting old, but I really
    don't like what they are doing to the Impreza.

    Basia
     
    basia, Aug 24, 2011
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    AD Guest

    because priuses always handled like crap and they probably always will

    engine is only part of the fun
    i don't like the outgoing impreza handling at all

    if you don't like the base model there is always wrx to move up to
    and the whole lineup is mirrored by mitsubishi now if you want
    to trade up some perceived reliability of impreza for a better tuned
    chassis of a lancer
    (less understeer, better handling, etc) even the pig that it is in the
    10th installment
     
    AD, Aug 24, 2011
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    basia Guest


    Oooops, my apologies to Canadians.

    In Canada the new 2012 Impreza will be sold at lower
    prices than the outgoing model, ...I guess for a reason.


    MISSISSAUGA, ON, Aug. 22, 2011 /CNW/ - Subaru Canada, Inc. (SCI) is
    pleased to announce pricing for the all-new 2012 Impreza lineup, which
    goes on sale in October. Consumers may not be surprised that the
    redesigned fourth-generation Impreza offers significant enhancements
    over the previous model... . What might be surprising is the fact that
    Subaru is offering the new Impreza at prices that are lower than the
    previous model—at every single trim level.

    http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2011/22/c5387.html
     
    basia, Aug 26, 2011
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