2008 Impreza with DOHC ??

[minnesotti]

I am interested to buy a Subaru Impreza. The basic version 2.0i with a
SOHC engine will suit me well in terms of equipment and trim. However,
I want a more powerful engine like the one the sports version 2.0R has
(a higher-powered 2-litre DOHC engine with variable valve timing and
electronic throttle control). But the 2.0R comes at a steep price
increment with little of equipment improvement, which represents a
lower value for me.

I've heard there will be an all-new Subaru Impreza in 2007 (based on a
shortened wheel base of Legacy/Liberty). I think they have to introduce
double camshafts, VVT etc into their engines in order to keep up with
the rest of the market. Should I expect that all Imprezas (both basic
and premium versions) will get the DOHC engine which the 2.0R model now
has ? A basic version with a 2.0R-style engine would be perfect for my
needs.

Thanks.

 

[Fraser Johnston]

I am interested to buy a Subaru Impreza. The basic version 2.0i with a
SOHC engine will suit me well in terms of equipment and trim. However,
I want a more powerful engine like the one the sports version 2.0R has
(a higher-powered 2-litre DOHC engine with variable valve timing and
electronic throttle control). But the 2.0R comes at a steep price
increment with little of equipment improvement, which represents a
lower value for me.

I've heard there will be an all-new Subaru Impreza in 2007 (based on a
shortened wheel base of Legacy/Liberty). I think they have to introduce
double camshafts, VVT etc into their engines in order to keep up with
the rest of the market. Should I expect that all Imprezas (both basic
and premium versions) will get the DOHC engine which the 2.0R model now
has ? A basic version with a 2.0R-style engine would be perfect for my
needs.

Thanks.

Sounds like you need to call Subaru and ask the question. Or get a run out
deal on the old model.

Fraser

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

I am interested to buy a Subaru Impreza. The basic version 2.0i with a
SOHC engine will suit me well in terms of equipment and trim. However,
I want a more powerful engine like the one the sports version 2.0R has
(a higher-powered 2-litre DOHC engine with variable valve timing and
electronic throttle control). But the 2.0R comes at a steep price
increment with little of equipment improvement, which represents a
lower value for me.

I've heard there will be an all-new Subaru Impreza in 2007 (based on a
shortened wheel base of Legacy/Liberty). I think they have to introduce
double camshafts, VVT etc into their engines in order to keep up with
the rest of the market. Should I expect that all Imprezas (both basic
and premium versions) will get the DOHC engine which the 2.0R model now
has ? A basic version with a 2.0R-style engine would be perfect for my
needs.

Thanks.

Perhaps someone from OZ will chime in. As for what might be available in
the US market, a good resource is www.cars101.com .

Carl

 

[D Walford]

I am interested to buy a Subaru Impreza. The basic version 2.0i with a
SOHC engine will suit me well in terms of equipment and trim. However,
I want a more powerful engine like the one the sports version 2.0R has
(a higher-powered 2-litre DOHC engine with variable valve timing and
electronic throttle control). But the 2.0R comes at a steep price
increment with little of equipment improvement, which represents a
lower value for me.

Are you in Australia?
I just bought a 2.0R for A$31,000 on road including a few extras they
threw in for nothing, window tinting, alarm and a CD stacker.
IMO the A$6000.00 price difference is well worth the money.
Ours has done less than 1000klms so far but so far my wife and I both
think its the best car we have ever owned.



Daryl

 

[cpu]

I'm waiting for a new Impreza (non-turbo) as well.

Subaru, if you're listening I want:

* 2.5L engine
* minimum 120kW
* minimum 240nm torque
* smaller and lighter (why do they keep making them longer and wider?!?!)
* no more than $30k AUS

 

[D Walford]

I'm waiting for a new Impreza (non-turbo) as well.

Subaru, if you're listening I want:

* 2.5L engine Why?

* minimum 120kW

118kw from current 2.0R is close.

* minimum 240nm torque

186nm from the 2.0R isn't all that bad.

* smaller and lighter (why do they keep making them longer and wider?!?!)

Its not exactly a big car, any smaller and it would be tiny.

* no more than $30k AUS

I think you will be waiting a long time.


Daryl

 

[cpu]

118kw from current 2.0R is close.

But it's a heavier car than the 2.5L RS it replaced.

186nm from the 2.0R isn't all that bad.

Which is huge and noticable drop in performance from the 225nm from the 2.5L
RS.

Its not exactly a big car, any smaller and it would be tiny.

It's way too big for a small or medium size car.
Smaller, lighter, better performance is the way.

I think you will be waiting a long time.

Manufacturers are losing the plot.

 

[Dan---]

186nm from the 2.0R isn't all that bad.

Starter motor power. ;-)

 

[Dan---]

It's way too big for a small or medium size car.
Smaller, lighter, better performance is the way.

Not enough leg room for me in them.

Manufacturers are losing the plot.

Manufacturers don't lose the plot its the people who run them do.

 

[D Walford]

But it's a heavier car than the 2.5L RS it replaced.


Which is huge and noticable drop in performance from the 225nm from the
2.5L RS.

Not according to road test reports I've read, its a more "peaky" engine
compared to the RS which requires a different driving style if you want
the most out of it but its still no slug for a na 4cyl.

It's way too big for a small or medium size car.

Too big? Its a little wider than our Corolla but the Corolla seems to
have more rear seat leg room, I certainly wouldn't have bought it if it
was any smaller.

Smaller, lighter, better performance is the way.


Manufacturers are losing the plot.

I think its cheap for what you get.



Daryl

 

[D Walford]

Starter motor power. ;-)

It actually feels quite torquey, I can go around corners in 3rd that I
would have taken in 2nd in the Corolla.
Performance is about power to weight, your Calais needs a lot of torque
because its as heavy as a battleship


Daryl

 

[D Walford]

Not enough leg room for me in them.

Plenty of room for normal people


Daryl

 

[Dan---]

It actually feels quite torquey, I can go around corners in 3rd that I
would have taken in 2nd in the Corolla.

Only if that suby had a turbo.

Performance is about power to weight, your Calais needs a lot of torque
because its as heavy as a battleship

Yup roomy and comfortable and it would have something seriously wrong if the
V8 engine produced bugger all torque.

But then again the truck I drive makes many cars feel and look sad in the
torque department.

 

[Dan---]

Plenty of room for normal people

No such thing as normal people.

 

[D Walford]

Only if that suby had a turbo.

We considered a sh WRX for about the same price as the 2.0R but since my
wife drives it 90% of the time a turbo would be a waste of time but
knowing how nice to drive our new car is I can't help but wonder what it
would be like with about 50kw more

Yup roomy and comfortable and it would have something seriously wrong if the
V8 engine produced bugger all torque.

But then again the truck I drive makes many cars feel and look sad in the
torque department.

Yep, even my little DAF has 1250nm which makes most petrol engines look
pathetic.



Daryl

 

[atec 77]

Plenty of room for normal people


Daryl

you mean midgets and dwarfs.

 

[Ben Thomas]

Are you in Australia?
I just bought a 2.0R for A$31,000 on road including a few extras they
threw in for nothing, window tinting, alarm and a CD stacker.
IMO the A$6000.00 price difference is well worth the money.
Ours has done less than 1000klms so far but so far my wife and I both
think its the best car we have ever owned.

I thought that about our Golf 2.0FSI Sportline. Definitely better than a
Liberty 2.0R which I did take for a test drive.

When we bought our two Astra a few years ago we didn't even bother to
sit in a Golf and boy do I regret it.

I am unashamedly flying the VW flag.

Ben

 

[Ben Thomas]

We considered a sh WRX for about the same price as the 2.0R but since my
wife drives it 90% of the time a turbo would be a waste of time but
knowing how nice to drive our new car is I can't help but wonder what it
would be like with about 50kw more

The 100+ more nM would be nice too.

What sort of fuel economy is the new car returning Daz?

Ben

 

[Trevor Wilson]

I thought that about our Golf 2.0FSI Sportline. Definitely better than a
Liberty 2.0R which I did take for a test drive.

When we bought our two Astra a few years ago we didn't even bother to sit
in a Golf and boy do I regret it.

I am unashamedly flying the VW flag.

**FWD = gay
Therefore, Golf = gay.
Except the AWD variants, of course.

I find it slightly amusing that many young people have never driven a RWD
automobile nowadays. They have no idea what they're missing. Perhaps they're
just all gay now.

 

[Marco]

Not enough leg room for me in them.

Me either. I was interested in the Liberty GT or 3.0R until I sat in
one and discovered the incompetent interior design with too little seat
travel and the dashboard I banged my knees against.

Marco