Subaru Car Forums


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes

Subaru Outback 2004: OIL BURNER ?

 
Joan Masoliver
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005
Hello!,

I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car new.
I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500 rpm, I
drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru burns 1
litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many oil type:
CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the same oil. It
is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?

There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum that
in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue, it is
true?

The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?

Tanks


 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
MN
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005

"Joan Masoliver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dn6gc7$h6r$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car
> new. I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500
> rpm, I drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru
> burns 1 litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many
> oil type: CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the
> same oil. It is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?



If you are in southern Europe (you seem to have a Spanish address)
don't be afraid to use a 15-40w, 15-50w oil, or even 20-50w. It may
help a lot. I have noticed that my car burns a lot more 5-30w oil
than 15-50w, and this is 5-30 in winter time, and 15-50 in summer.

I think these 5-40, 5-50, oils were developed for northern Europe
type climates and for the convienience of year round use. In southern
Europes warmer climate you should be able to use 15-40, 15-50 year
round, unless you are somewhere in the mountains. If you are in some
place like Southern Spain, S.Italy, or Greece, 20-50 year round should
be OK, and should make a difference in oil consumption.

MN



> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum
> that in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue,
> it is true?
>
> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>
> Tanks
>



 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Carl 1 Lucky Texan
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005
Joan Masoliver wrote:
> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car new.
> I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500 rpm, I
> drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru burns 1
> litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many oil type:
> CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the same oil. It
> is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?
>
> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum that
> in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue, it is
> true?
>
> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>
> Tanks
>
>


At one time, GM considered a quart in 900 miles to fall within normal
useage for big V8s.
You should confirm the PCV valve and systems is operational and clean.
It is a cheap part if you wanted to change it.

Carl
1 Lucky Texan


--
to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)
 
Reply With Quote
 
Joan Masoliver
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005
Hello MN,

Yes, I live in Barcelona. The syntetic oil 5-40 is the most used in my
region for a new cars, and I use this oil in other cars without oil burning
(VW Golf III, VW Passat, Honda HR-V).

Using a mineral oil it must change oil in 7500 Km, instead 15000 Km. I trie
to use in my Subaru a Castrol RS 10-50, or a Motul 300V 10-40 or 15-40 in
the next oil-change.

Thaks

Joan

"MN" <(E-Mail Removed)> ha escrit en el missatge dels grups de
discussió:Q8Alf.26980$(E-Mail Removed) igy.net...
>
> "Joan Masoliver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dn6gc7$h6r$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hello!,
>>
>> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car
>> new. I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500
>> rpm, I drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru
>> burns 1 litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use
>> many oil type: CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it
>> burns the same oil. It is normal in this engine? What oil did you
>> recomended?

>
>
> If you are in southern Europe (you seem to have a Spanish address)
> don't be afraid to use a 15-40w, 15-50w oil, or even 20-50w. It may
> help a lot. I have noticed that my car burns a lot more 5-30w oil
> than 15-50w, and this is 5-30 in winter time, and 15-50 in summer.
>
> I think these 5-40, 5-50, oils were developed for northern Europe
> type climates and for the convienience of year round use. In southern
> Europes warmer climate you should be able to use 15-40, 15-50 year
> round, unless you are somewhere in the mountains. If you are in some
> place like Southern Spain, S.Italy, or Greece, 20-50 year round should
> be OK, and should make a difference in oil consumption.
>
> MN
>
>
>
>> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum
>> that in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this
>> issue, it is true?
>>
>> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
>> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>>
>> Tanks
>>

>
>



 
Reply With Quote
 
Joan Masoliver
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005
Thaks Carl,

My car inunder waranty, I try to confirm the state of the PCV valve in a
Subaru dealer.

Joan

"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <(E-Mail Removed)> ha escrit en el missatge dels
grups de discussió:3sAlf.23762$(E-Mail Removed) igy.com...
> Joan Masoliver wrote:
>> Hello!,
>>
>> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car
>> new. I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500
>> rpm, I drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru
>> burns 1 litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use
>> many oil type: CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it
>> burns the same oil. It is normal in this engine? What oil did you
>> recomended?
>>
>> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum
>> that in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this
>> issue, it is true?
>>
>> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
>> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>>
>> Tanks

>
> At one time, GM considered a quart in 900 miles to fall within normal
> useage for big V8s.
> You should confirm the PCV valve and systems is operational and clean. It
> is a cheap part if you wanted to change it.
>
> Carl
> 1 Lucky Texan
>
>
> --
> to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)



 
Reply With Quote
 
Jim Stewart
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005
Joan Masoliver wrote:

> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car new.
> I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500 rpm, I
> drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru burns 1
> litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many oil type:
> CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the same oil. It
> is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?
>
> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum that
> in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue, it is
> true?
>
> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?


I don't think I'd worry about 1 litre per 2,500 miles.
I suspect that you've treated the car very gently and
it still hasn't broken in completely.

Subaru (or any other car maker) would not replace
engines for this level of oil consumption.

Oil is cheap compared to gas and car payments. I
would not worry about it.


 
Reply With Quote
 
chip
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-07-2005
Joan Masoliver wrote:

> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car
> new. I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500
> rpm, I drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru
> burns 1 litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many
> oil type: CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the
> same oil. It is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?
>
> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum
> that in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue,
> it is true?
>
> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>
> Tanks

Sounds about normal. That's about what mine uses. I change my oil every
3000 miles so I hardly notice it. I have right at 12,000 miles on my
Forrester.
--
Chip
'05 FXT
"You just got passed by a what?"
 
Reply With Quote
 
Joan Masoliver
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-09-2005
Yes, Jim and chip, this isn't a high oil consomation, but it is the first
car that I drive burning oil (I drive 750.000 Km):

Seat 600, Peugeot 504 GLD, Peugeot 205 GLD, VW Golf II GTI, VW Golf III
GTI, VW Golf IV TDI, VW Passat TDI, Honda HR-V, and nothing burns oil. I
test the oil level regulary.

New technology for new cars actually means you need to check your oil more
often? , in opposition to the expectation of newer cars being more reliable
and requiring less monitoring. I think that if a car need adding oil
regulary it is necessary install a oil bootle, like a coolant bootle ...,
but the user can't live in a insecurity sensation of leak oil, in front of
the sophistication actual tecnology of cars: it has a temperature exterior
sensor but it hasn't a exact oil-level sensor and it is necessari check oil
manually, like my 1964 SEAT 600.


I think this Outback 2.5i is a "oil-guzzler"

jnm


"Joan Masoliver" <(E-Mail Removed)> ha escrit en el missatge dels
grups de discussió:dn6gc7$h6r$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car
> new. I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500
> rpm, I drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru
> burns 1 litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many
> oil type: CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the
> same oil. It is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?
>
> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum
> that in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue,
> it is true?
>
> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>
> Tanks
>



 
Reply With Quote
 
Michael Pardee
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-10-2005
"Joan Masoliver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dn6gc7$h6r$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may, I by this car
> new. I drive with it 50.000 Km in a familiar use (I never execed the 4500
> rpm, I drive betwen 2.000 and 4.000 rpm). Since the first day, my Subaru
> burns 1 litre oil (a quarter) every 4.000 Km (2.500 miles). I try use many
> oil type: CEPSA 5-40, Motul 8100 5-40, Castrol TXT 5-50, but it burns the
> same oil. It is normal in this engine? What oil did you recomended?
>
> There are somebody with the same problem? I read in a australian forum
> that in this country Subaru-Australia has replaced engines for this issue,
> it is true?
>
> The Subaru service says that is normal !!!!, I never had a new car that
> burns oil, It is Subaru-engine the worst engine in the world?
>
> Tanks
>

If the oil consumption is typical for the Subie 2.5 it probably indicates
the engine was designed for demanding use. An extreme example of that is the
old Lotus Super Seven (IIRC), which used an engine that was designed to
power water pumps in fire engines. The engine had to endure putting out full
power as soon as it was started, so the tolerances were left loose and it
burned amazing amounts of oil. The same thing applies to engines that are
designed for off-road use, but just not as radically. Loose tolerances make
for a much more rugged engine if the engine is likely to be lugged a lot
and/or pushed hard (like driving through sand.) Oil-sipping street engines
don't last long under those conditions.

Mike


 
Reply With Quote
 
Andy Leszczynski
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12-10-2005
Joan Masoliver wrote:
> Hello!,
>
> I have a Subaru Outback 2004 2.5i (168CV) since 2004-may,

[...]


I have put over 60k miles into 93' Legacy L and at that moment 150k
miles into 02' Impreza 2.5 TS and Outback together and never have noted
oil burning. However me and my wife drive rather hard.


Interestingly enough my Yamaha FZ-1 (bike) burns oil somewhat (which is
fine) in case I ride it very gently on longer trips - average speed
75-85 mph at 5000 rpm. Heard that the engine takes less or none oil when
pushed harder worth frequent trips over to 8+k RPM zone. It matches my
observations.

A.
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2004 Subaru Outback Sedan Ltd. computer connector RaP Subaru Outback 0 05-16-2008 08:58 PM
OIL for a 2004 2.5i outback Joan Masoliver Subaru Outback 2 01-10-2006 01:17 AM
2004 Subaru Outback Legacy Factory Service Manual? Frank Subaru Legacy 1 02-22-2005 01:36 AM
Outback 2005 v. 2004 debtay Subaru Outback 4 07-25-2004 09:33 PM
2004 Outback frank Subaru Outback 2 07-21-2003 06:02 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:38 AM.